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jeanharris
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ILLMAN FAMILY OF WORTH SUSSEX
« on: Sunday 13 February 05 02:38 UTC (UK) »
Hi,
I am looking for any info on the ILLMAN family of Worth.
Richard Illman married Mary Blundell there in 1818,they had a son Josiah born 1820.Then unable to find the family until Josiah married Sarah Rolfe in London 1843.Where did they go?
Also does any one have info on Richard and his family?
         Thanks Jean,Perth Australia.
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Re: ILLMAN FAMILY OF WORTH SUSSEX
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 May 05 21:12 UTC (UK) »
Hi Jean

Has any one come back with any information on your Illmann Family of Worth.

I have just been browsing through the 1841 for Worth and spotted

ILLMANN Lydia, 55, Dressmaker
.............  William, 15, Ag Lab

They may be related

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Re: ILLMAN FAMILY OF WORTH SUSSEX
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 May 05 04:51 UTC (UK) »
Hi Chris,
thanks for that,no one has been back to me on the Illman family only you!
I now think they moved from Worth after Josiah was born ? Burstow Surrey,London or Strood in Kent.
I know they lived in Strood after Josiah married and Sarah was born Frindsbury near Strood(by the way thats were I was born!)
I would like to find if Josiah had any brothers or sisters and where the family was between 1820 and 1843.
When you go to the record office in Lewis next week could you try if you have time please look to see if they were living in Sussex in the 1841 census.
            Thanks Jean in Perth Australia.
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Re: ILLMAN FAMILY OF WORTH SUSSEX
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 September 05 07:26 UTC (UK) »
HI,

I have some Illman's in my tree from West Grinstead, Sussex including:
Ann (1760-1781)
Elizabeth (c1758 - )
James (c1764 - c1835)
Jane (C1735 - )
John (c 1760 - )Sarah (c1762 - 1844)
Thomas (c1710 - )
Thomas (c1698 - )
Timothy (c1733 - )
William (c1727 - )

Any of these ring any bells?

Mark
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Re: ILLMAN FAMILY OF WORTH SUSSEX
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 September 05 05:33 UTC (UK) »
Hi Jean,

The following baptism may be relevant:

William ILLMAN
Birth Date: 31 Dec 1821
Christening Date: 29 August 1847
Recorded in Gillingham, Kent
Father: Richard Illman
Mother: Mary Ann

[FHL Film 1042491]

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Re: ILLMAN FAMILY OF WORTH SUSSEX
« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 November 06 17:11 UTC (UK) »
There were Illmans in my year at Imberhorne school, East Grinstead (1975-1982).
Can't remember where they lived, but it was either Worth, Turners Hill, Crawley Down or Copthorne - so you still had rellies living in the area at least until the.
Cheers

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Re: ILLMAN FAMILY OF WORTH SUSSEX
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 August 07 14:20 UTC (UK) »
I bought this chappy , no relation to me, but could'nt not give him a home,  might be one of your's . Eilleen.

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Re: ILLMAN FAMILY OF WORTH SUSSEX
« Reply #7 on: Friday 10 August 07 01:28 UTC (UK) »
Hi Elleen.
I did see the photo on Ebay,but I donnot know if he is family or not,the seller could not give me anymore info.
I see you are reseaching in the Lincolnshire area,one member of my Illmans moved there c 1890.He was John Illman the son of Josiah Illman born 1820 Worth,he would have been a nursery man.
          Kind regards Jean.
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Re: ILLMAN FAMILY OF WORTH SUSSEX
« Reply #8 on: Friday 10 August 07 07:59 UTC (UK) »
Hi Jean, I only purchased him because noboby else seemed to want him. Cry  he is no relation to me, but maybe someday, someone will claim him. in the mean time he is in good company with a lot of other folk's who I keep an eye out for their decendants, they are all in a box labeled misplaced folk  Smiley   Eilleen.
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EXTON, from Rutland, Stamford,Boston, Lincoln.
LANES, from Coleby, to Bracebridge Lincoln.
WAKEFIELD, PROUDMAN and HATTON , BECKETT from Cheshire and  Stafford.
PINDAR, MOORE, ROSE,CHAMBERS mostly from Lincolnshire.
LAING from Elgin ,Scotland.1800s onward.
HADDELSEY from Caistor, Lincolnshire.                   
 Parfitt,
Le Gros ,Le Sueur, from Jersey.
BISHOP, mostly London.
Martin, from Doncaster  to whelyn garden city, London.
Lowen from Dublin to London
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Re: ILLMAN FAMILY OF WORTH SUSSEX
« Reply #9 on: Friday 10 August 07 16:17 UTC (UK) »
Possibly this one?

1901 Chiswick Middlesex
RG 13/1199 folio 127 page 35

3 Belmont Grove
Louisa Illman, head, wid, 60, charwoman, Parish N.K. London
William, son, 18, general labourer, Chiswick London
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Re: ILLMAN FAMILY OF WORTH SUSSEX
« Reply #10 on: Friday 10 August 07 16:21 UTC (UK) »
Hi Dave, that one looks like a good possibility, well done, maybe one day someone will beable to claim him.   Eilleen.
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LANES, from Coleby, to Bracebridge Lincoln.
WAKEFIELD, PROUDMAN and HATTON , BECKETT from Cheshire and  Stafford.
PINDAR, MOORE, ROSE,CHAMBERS mostly from Lincolnshire.
LAING from Elgin ,Scotland.1800s onward.
HADDELSEY from Caistor, Lincolnshire.                   
 Parfitt,
Le Gros ,Le Sueur, from Jersey.
BISHOP, mostly London.
Martin, from Doncaster  to whelyn garden city, London.
Lowen from Dublin to London
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Re: ILLMAN FAMILY OF WORTH SUSSEX
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 11 August 07 05:54 UTC (UK) »
Hi Eilleen and Dave.
I think he may be conected to the Illman family from the Sussex/Surrey boarder.Its an uncommon surname and I think they came first from that area.

I have had a good look at my tree,but sorry to say again he is not mine.I just hope someone claims him.I would love to find more pics of my family.

          Regards Jean.
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Re: ILLMAN FAMILY OF WORTH SUSSEX
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 11 August 07 08:12 UTC (UK) »
Hi again Jean.

I think you're right. The William Illman I found was the son of Henry and Louisa Illman. Henry Illman, a gardener, was born about 1845 in Reigate, Surrey. In 1891 the family were at the same address - 3 Belmont Grove, Chiswick. [RG 12/1034 folio 26 page 15]

Going back even further, Henry appears to have been the son of James and Ann Illman. In 1851 he was living with his parents in Reigate. James Illman, a blacksmith, was born about 1813 in Chipstead, Surrey. [HO 107/1599/1 folio 205 page 34]

So the William Illman in the picture seems to have been James's grandson.

Dave
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast
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Re: ILLMAN FAMILY OF WORTH SUSSEX
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 11 August 07 10:40 UTC (UK) »
Hi again Dave.
Thanks for the info.

My Illman's who came to Kent had a nursery in Strood Kent.It is known they sold plants and flowers to Charles Dickens.
The pic was taken c 1900.
         Regards Jean.

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Re: ILLMAN FAMILY OF WORTH SUSSEX
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 11 August 07 14:44 UTC (UK) »
Jean, It maybe just me, but I can see a resemblance in your man on the right and the one I have, checkout the hand's.    Eilleen.
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EXTON, from Rutland, Stamford,Boston, Lincoln.
LANES, from Coleby, to Bracebridge Lincoln.
WAKEFIELD, PROUDMAN and HATTON , BECKETT from Cheshire and  Stafford.
PINDAR, MOORE, ROSE,CHAMBERS mostly from Lincolnshire.
LAING from Elgin ,Scotland.1800s onward.
HADDELSEY from Caistor, Lincolnshire.                   
 Parfitt,
Le Gros ,Le Sueur, from Jersey.
BISHOP, mostly London.
Martin, from Doncaster  to whelyn garden city, London.
Lowen from Dublin to London
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