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zoealyce
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Hi Grosperrin,
My great great great grandparents were James Laing and Janet Kinnear.
Zoe x
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Mythical
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Hi,
This is all a bit new to me but I have just been reading back over all the "Laing" entries.
I am related to the John Laing b. 1740 m. Margaret Greig b. 1745, Carnbee and John Laing b. 1778, m. Anne Black b. Abt 1778, Carnbee - They are my 3x and 4x grandparents.
I also got back to my 5x GDad - John Laing b. Abt 1720 - m. Ann Mcewing b. Abt 1720.
I had the John Laing/Margaret Greig children, but I couldn't find the John Laing/Anne Black children.
Thanks to "Sheenie" I now know there is info to be found.
If I can help anyone with the few bits of info I have I will be happy to do so. I live in Australia so I'm on a different time schedule to most of you, but will get back to you if I can help or you can help me.
Regards mythical
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ostler
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Great Granddad John Angus Sutherland (1875-1963)
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Hi Mythical
Looks like we're probably related. 
How did you find this Anne McEwing?
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All countries/counties Kinnes, Ostler, Terras (and all variations!!)
Scotland Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay) Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee) Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)
England Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon
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Mythical
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Hi,
I have an OPR birth from SP for John Laing which lists his parents as John Laing and Ann Laing at Carnbee. I then searched for John Laing with an Ann in all parishes from 1705 to 1742 and found only 1 record that of John Laing and Ann Mcewing m. 5/6/1737 but they were in Glasgow. I then checked through IGI and found marriage confirmation and a daughter listed as Janet b. 3/4/1744 to a John and Ann Laing but born in Carnbee.
It seems to fit in datewise, but I haven't been able to find any more details as yet. Can you help with more info.
mythical
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ostler
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Great Granddad John Angus Sutherland (1875-1963)
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Unfortunately I've not got much on this family at the moment - Glasgow seems an awfully long way for people to travel in those days but that's not to say it's impossible!
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All countries/counties Kinnes, Ostler, Terras (and all variations!!)
Scotland Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay) Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee) Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)
England Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon
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Mythical
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I was born in Glasgow myself and thought we were always in this area until I started researching. My grandad was born in Forfarshire, Lochee, my ggdad in Perth and then from 1816 back we are all in Carnbee, Fifeshire until the Laing/Mcewing marriage and then they end up back in Carnbee area again.
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ostler
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Great Granddad John Angus Sutherland (1875-1963)
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I'm wondering if John Laing and Ann McEwing married in Glasgow but were born in Fife - some of my relations seemed to go to Glasgow to get married when neither the bride or groom were from there.
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All countries/counties Kinnes, Ostler, Terras (and all variations!!)
Scotland Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay) Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee) Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)
England Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon
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Mythical
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It's very possible as I have't found any other info on either except a possible death record for John Laing in 1790, again he died in Carnbee and the son John and daughter Janet were both born in Carnbee, although John (the son) was born 1740 and Janet 1744. they actually married in1737, which is a big gap if he was the first child.
I've only just found all this in the last couple of days, perhaps I should look for more children in the Lanark area.
Do you have a connection with these Laings?
mythical
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ostler
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Great Granddad John Angus Sutherland (1875-1963)
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Yes John and Ann (the ones who potentially married in Glasgow) were my great x7 grandparents.
John (b1740) was their son, who had a son called David b1780. David married Anne Small, and they had a son called Robert (b1816) who married Agnes Mackie. Robert and Agnes had a son called David (b1837) who married Catherine Harley. David and Catherine had a daughter called Jemima Dunbar Laing who was born in 1871, she married Robert Brotherton Small. Robert and Jemima's eldest son, James Small (b1897) married Helen Mary Clark Fleming, and their eldest daughter, Agnes Grace Sanderson Small (b1922) was my grandmother.
Phew!
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All countries/counties Kinnes, Ostler, Terras (and all variations!!)
Scotland Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay) Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee) Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)
England Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon
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Mythical
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Phew...is right.
Nice to meet you, that is a lot of info to absorb at this time of night, but all very interesting, I have come across David Laing and Anne Small in my IGI searches and something made me print out their details and children's records.
I actually thought at one time I must have connections with all the Laings in Carnbee, oneway or another, given the population numbers at that time and the amount of children they seem to have had.
Time for bed "downunder" Thanks for the chat, hope we can help each other some more.
mythical
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ostler
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Great Granddad John Angus Sutherland (1875-1963)
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I suspect they are all connected one way or another, perhaps next time you're on here you can let me know your connection.
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All countries/counties Kinnes, Ostler, Terras (and all variations!!)
Scotland Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay) Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee) Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)
England Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon
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Mythical
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Will do, happy to, just making too many typos as it's neary midnight here.
Be in touch.
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ostler
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Great Granddad John Angus Sutherland (1875-1963)
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I suppose the evidence points towards both John and Ann being Laings - it's not impossible. The Glasgow idea seems a little unrealistic to me, but again not impossible. The fact there is a potential Laing/Layng in Pittenweem, which isn't tooo far from Carnbee, seems like the more sensible option. But until there is more evidence this could be another brick wall.
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All countries/counties Kinnes, Ostler, Terras (and all variations!!)
Scotland Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay) Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee) Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)
England Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon
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Mythical
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Hi Sheenie,
I think I need to do a bit more searching re John Laing & Ann Mcewing - I found IGI marriage for John Laing & Ann Laing but when I went into SP I did a John Laing with an Ann only and a large year span from 1705 to 1742 and found only the 1 record as above, nothing for an Ann Laing and just assumed that was her maiden name. I know you shouldn't assume anything so I will keep trying and look into your Laying and Mackie idea.
You mentioned your John Laing b. 1740 has been witnessed by David & John Laing, I have the same but my copy for Janet b. 1744 the witnesses look like John & Charles ...something, but it doesn't look like Laing to me?? Is your copy any clearer?
Thanks for the input.
Regards Mythical
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