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DDJJake
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Hi ...just noticed this LAING discussion,
I have two lots in Fife ... but a very extensive line in Larbert/Falkirk area Here are the Fife links .... Dysart LAINGs
First Generation 1. James LAING . James married Ann WILSON on 22 Oct 1857 in Dysart, Fife, Scotland. They had the following children: + 2 M i. James LAING [Iron Turner] was born on 04 Aug 1867. Second Generation 2. James LAING [Iron Turner] (James) was born on 04 Aug 1867 in Wemyss, Fife, Scotland. James married Euphemia Lindsay SHORT daughter of John SHORT [Linen Weaver] and Elizabeth LINDSAY on 15 Jun 1888 in Dysart, Fife, Scotland. Euphemia was born on 17 Aug 1869 in Kennoway, Fife, Scotland. She died on 19 May 1953 in 114 Commercial St., Kirkcaldy, Scotland. They had the following children: 3 F i. Elizabeth LAING was born in 1890 in Dysart, Fife, Scotland. 4 F ii. Annie Wilson LAING was born on 18 Apr 1892 in Dysart, Fife, Scotland. She died in 1972 in South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland. Annie married John Gilroy GRAHAM on 04 Mar 1921 in Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland. John was born on 08 Jan 1895 in Burntisland, Fife, Scotland. He died in 1953 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland.
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Dunshelt LAINGs First Generation 1. James LAING [Handloom Weaver] was born in 1817/1818 in Falkland, Fife, Scotland . James married Agnes OLIPHANT . Agnes was born in 1811/1812 in Kettle, Fife, Scotland. They had the following children: 2 F i. Agnes LAING was born in 1838/1839 in Dunshelt, Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland. 3 F ii. Jean LAING was born in 1841/1842 in Dunshelt, Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland. +4 F iii. Elizabeth LAING was born in 1845. She died on 26 Feb 1910. 5 M iv. William LAING was born in 1846/1847 in Dunshelt, Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland. 6 F v. Mary LAING was born in 1849/1850 in Dunshelt, Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland. Second Generation 4. Elizabeth LAING (James) was born in 1845 in Dunshelt, Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland. She died on 26 Feb 1910 in Newton of Falkland, Fife, Scotland. The cause of death was Heart Disease Dropsy. Elizabeth married George INNES [Ploughman] son of George INNES [Gardener] and Mary BROWN on 08 Jan 1869 in Falkland, Fife, Scotland. George was born in 1848 in Kirkgate, Cupar, Fife, Scotland. He died on 03 Nov 1924 in Newton of Falkland, Fife, Scotland. They had the following children: 7 F i. Agnes INNES [Handloom Weaver] was born on 15 Oct 1869 in Falkland, Fife, Scotland . 8 M ii. George INNES [Ploughman] was born in 1876 in Falkland, Fife, Scotland. George married Hannah Thomson BRUCE daughter of Alexander BRUCE and Christina LAMBERT on 30 Sep 1898 in Star Parish, Kennoway, Fife, Scotland. Hannah was born on 03 Feb 1872 in Kennoway, Fife, Scotland.
Aye DDJJAKE
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Auchmutie, Ingles, Henderson, Patrick, Collier, Hunter, McLeod et al in Fife, Scotland Nicoll in Angus, Scotland Cuthbert in Perth, Scotland Telfer, Telford, Maclaren in Stirlingshire, Renfrewshire, Lanarkshire, Scotland Richardson in Lochmaben, Dumfries
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Sounds like pretty conclusive evidence to me, sheenie! Would love to get in touch about Harleys as well!
I am also a Fifer, so perhaps we could meet up sometime.
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All countries/counties Kinnes, Ostler, Terras (and all variations!!)
Scotland Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay) Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee) Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)
England Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon
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Great Granddad John Angus Sutherland (1875-1963)
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I must ask, have you managed to get any further back than John Laing b1740? A quick glance at the IGI shows a couple of possibilities for his baptism. Especially John LAYNG b 18 Jan 1742, bap 24 Jan 1742 in Kilmany, son of Thomas Layng and Isabel Barklo (Barclay??).
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All countries/counties Kinnes, Ostler, Terras (and all variations!!)
Scotland Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay) Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee) Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)
England Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon
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Evelina
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Hi DDJJake I started this thread but so far i have not been lucky enough to find any LAING's related to mine but i am really glad to see others are matching up.
However you mention a Larbet/Falkirk connection. As I said in the 1st post I have James Laing married to Christian Campbell in Larbert, Stirling in 1783. His parents possibly Thomas Laing & Margaret Russall who married in 1752 in Denny.
If they are mine Thomas & Margaret had 9 children in Denny, do any of them tie into yours? Peter 1753, James 1755, Lachlane 1757, Peter 1758, Margaret 1760, Alexander 1762, Isobel 1765, Thomas 1767 & David 1772? Cheers Evelina
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Porter & Chalmers - Perthshire, Laing - West Fife, Stirrat - Glasgow, Ferguson - Glasgow & Skye, Coulter & Wilson - Northern Ireland, Kean - Glasgow & Northern Ireland. Ferrier - Perthshire. Lawton - Church Lawton, Cheshire.
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DDJJake
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Sorry Evelina ... no links to my 2 Laing lines of Larbert and Carronshore ... then Falkirk in 20th Century ... including the Barbara Laing who was mother of George Mitchell, Conductor of the famous TV and Stage, 'Black and White Minstrels'! Aye DDJJAKE
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Auchmutie, Ingles, Henderson, Patrick, Collier, Hunter, McLeod et al in Fife, Scotland Nicoll in Angus, Scotland Cuthbert in Perth, Scotland Telfer, Telford, Maclaren in Stirlingshire, Renfrewshire, Lanarkshire, Scotland Richardson in Lochmaben, Dumfries
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Great Granddad John Angus Sutherland (1875-1963)
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Looking forward to it. My Laings meet the Harleys with David Laing marrying Catherine Harley 31 Oct 1863 in Forgan Manse, Forgan. David was the son of Robert Laing and Agnes Mackie, Robert was in turn son of David Laing and Anne Small.
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All countries/counties Kinnes, Ostler, Terras (and all variations!!)
Scotland Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay) Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee) Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)
England Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon
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Great Granddad John Angus Sutherland (1875-1963)
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On my travels today I found a headstone at Logie Churchyard with this:
ERECTED BY DAVID LAING In memory of his wife ISABELLA LAING who died 4 June 1811(?) aged 71(?) years Also his Daughter CHRISTIAN died 26 Feb 1811 aged 3(?) years And of his son DAVID who died 22 March 1817 aged 8 years And two children died in infancy DAVID LAING The erector of this stone died 13 Decr 1813 aged 75 years
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All countries/counties Kinnes, Ostler, Terras (and all variations!!)
Scotland Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay) Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee) Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)
England Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon
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Chiad Fhear
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Good morning all from the bright and sunny Kingdom 
Last evening I received a page from the 1851 Census taken in Aston near Birmingham:
15 Ct Upper Windsor Street
WILLIAM LAING Head 30 Railway Guard born Scotland, Fife JESSIE LAING Wife 27 also born Scotland, Fife JANET RITCHIE LAING Daur 1 born Warwickshire, Birmingham
This morning I did a search for more information ... as one does ... on the IGI and found a marriage for William and Jessie on 17 September 1848 at Old Church, Saint Pancras, London.
A deeper 'dig' found the young Janet born in 1849 and also another daughter Margaret born on 9 May 1856 in St Andrews & St Leonards, Fife
And then ... a birth search for William brought one strong possibility born 4 March 1819 and baptised 14 March in Kilconquhar to David Laing and Margaret McPersin (Possibly McPherson) a birth search for Janet brough a strong possibility born 27 August 1823 and baptised 31 August in Kingsbarns to James Ritchie and Janet ... wait for it ... LAING 
They also appear in the 1861 Census living in St Andrews, Fife, but I haven't spent any credits to find out the address. I can search the microfilm in the University Library next week and get a copy for just 10 pence 
Anyone got any further thoughts or details on this branch?
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Chiad Fhear
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Aye mair questions than answers in a world where the past was a different place - that cannae be revisited! Family surnames being researched ... Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson Drummond, Pearson, Laing ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more! Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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kirstyfairfull
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Hi, I have the index for 1861 census & if I ,ve read it correctly William & Jessie are at Rose Lane St Andrews. William,s birthplace is given as Kilconquhar , Jessie as Kingsbarn,s ,& Janet as Birmingham. Christine.
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Dundee. Pullar, Gray, Calman,Halket. Fife, Auchterlonie, Binnie, Briggs,Dempster,Herd,Mann,Kidd, Grubb, Rollo,Henderson,McLaren, Fairfull,Weir. Just to name a few.
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Chiad Fhear
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Silly old me Christine
I've just sent a PM to you then found this ... can you post the reference for their entry in the 1861 Census (Parish/ED/Page) it'll make it even easier to find on the roll of film?
Rose Lane shouldn't be too hard to find if you don't as it's relatively 'central' in the town
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Chiad Fhear
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Aye mair questions than answers in a world where the past was a different place - that cannae be revisited! Family surnames being researched ... Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson Drummond, Pearson, Laing ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more! Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Chiad Fhear
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OK folks ... I've now got prints of the Census pages for 1861 and 1871 No 4 Rose Lane, St Andrews. The microfilm was quite badly scratched but the information is still quite legible - and the sum total ... just 20p!
William, Jessie, Janet and Margaret are shown on both. And, as a bonus, Jessies parents are also on the 1861 Census but just her father on the 1871 at the same address.
William is shown as a Land Labourer in 1861 then a Farmer of 25 Acres ten years later. Jessie's father is shown as a Retired Land Labourer in 1861 and Retired Farmer in 1871.
I haven't been in Rose Lane for a long time but I must stop off there when next I'm passing just to see what the accommodation is/was like. That part of the town is relatively unchanged externally.
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Chiad Fhear
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Aye mair questions than answers in a world where the past was a different place - that cannae be revisited! Family surnames being researched ... Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson Drummond, Pearson, Laing ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more! Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Chiad Fhear
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Re Rose Lane:
When walking home in the sunshine this afternoon I took the chance to look in Rose Lane. It lies between what is now the Baptist Church and the round turreted corner of a big house. It's wide enough to take a small lorry or biggish van, cobbled and on the west side has a row of two storey terraced houses.
No 4 - strangley enough - is FOR SALE by Murray Donald Drummond Cook 
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Chiad Fhear
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Aye mair questions than answers in a world where the past was a different place - that cannae be revisited! Family surnames being researched ... Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson Drummond, Pearson, Laing ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more! Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Chiad Fhear
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Hi Evalina et al
Seems as if our "Laings in Fife and beyond" thread has gone off the boil 
Anyone found anything else to share?
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Aye mair questions than answers in a world where the past was a different place - that cannae be revisited! Family surnames being researched ... Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson Drummond, Pearson, Laing ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more! Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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