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Topic: "Laings" in Fife and beyond (Read 5459 times)
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Johnoz
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Dear Ostler
Certainly looks like her, same birthday and place. I don't have any information on her parentage. Mine married James Walker [b 24/9/1868, Dunbog] on 13/6/1890 at Leuchars.
He was the son of Catherine Walker nee Dewar a 1st cousin 3 times removed. Elizabeth and James had a son, Andrew, but that's where my current story ends.
I also have many Fife Bruntons in my tree but not this Isabella. My Bruntons also come about through marrying into the Dewars.
regards
John Gourlay
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ostler
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Great Granddad John Angus Sutherland (1875-1963)
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If you have her marriage, how come you don't have her parents? They should have been on the certificate.
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All countries/counties
Kinnes, Ostler, Terras (and all variations!!)
Scotland
Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay)
Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm
Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee)
Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul, Small
Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)
England
Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton
Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon
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Johnoz
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Dear Ostler
I've never seen the marriage certificate. I got the information from a Dewar correspondent and currently can't put my hands on it to see if her parentage was shown.
regards
John Gourlay
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ostler
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Great Granddad John Angus Sutherland (1875-1963)
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John,
I will see if I can locate the marriage certificate on ScotlandsPeople.
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All countries/counties
Kinnes, Ostler, Terras (and all variations!!)
Scotland
Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay)
Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm
Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee)
Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul, Small
Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)
England
Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton
Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon
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ostler
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Posts: 347
Great Granddad John Angus Sutherland (1875-1963)
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I have found the certificate and it is indeed the same Elizabeth Laing. Are you a descendant of James Walker and Elizabeth Laing?
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All countries/counties
Kinnes, Ostler, Terras (and all variations!!)
Scotland
Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay)
Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm
Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee)
Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul, Small
Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)
England
Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton
Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon
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Johnoz
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Dear Ostler
Short answer - No. Andrew Walker was a 2nd great grandson of Fife folk bc1742, John Dewar and Isobel Meiklejohn. I am a 4th great grandson, but descended via an 1812 Elizabeth Dewar, a sister of Andrews Walker's, grandfather, John Dewar b1806
regards
John Gourlay
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ostler
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Great Granddad John Angus Sutherland (1875-1963)
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So we're not blood related, okay. 
I would, however, appreciate any information you have regarding Elizabeth Laing And any subsequent offspring she had with James Walker.
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All countries/counties
Kinnes, Ostler, Terras (and all variations!!)
Scotland
Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay)
Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm
Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee)
Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul, Small
Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)
England
Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton
Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon
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shil0464
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hello - I'm new to all of thisand have only started searching my tree tonight.
However, I have found some definite Fife Laings in my searches.
These are:
Margaret Laing who was born 2 Jan 1825 and married a David Haxton (weaver) on 31 July 1840 (my my great x 4 grandparents)
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John Laing of Balmalcom, Kettle, Fife - Margaret's father who married a Margaret Thomson.
Not sure if this ties in with anybody? If so, please let me know!
Thanks,
Amy
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Johnoz
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Dear Ostler
I just have a son, Andrew Walker, who was allegedly born at Leuchars in 1890 and died as an infant in 1894. I still can't put my hands on my original source.
Are you a descendant of Elizabeth and Andrew? If so I'd be interested in what you have and likewise can give you details back to the original Dewars. I'm on (*)
regards
John G
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Chiad Fhear
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Aye mair questions than answers!
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Hello - I'm new to all of this and have only started searching my tree tonight.
Hi Amy
Welcome to RootsChat.
You've a bit of reading to do just on this thread alone for your Laing connections and then you'll fiind others, so good luck to you. Post as much information as you have each time you do and I'm sure there'll be someone who'll be able to help ... and will most likely be related
Just keep this in mind:
Genealogy
... is not fatal - but is a grave disease
... is to be lived in the past lane
... is a haystack full of needles - but it is the threads that I need
... is about collecting dead relatives and sometimes live cousins
... is where you confuse the dead and irritate the living!
Good luck with your research
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Aye mair questions than answers in a world where the past was a different place - that cannae be revisited! Family surnames being researched ... Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson Drummond, Pearson, Laing ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more! Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Chiad Fhear
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Aye mair questions than answers!
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Hi Chiad, I love your:- Genealogy... May I use this in my Newsletter to my family and friends?
Hi Evelina
I've no objections, but I've also no idea where I found it or who wrote it, although I reckon it sums up our interests perfectly!
Regards
Chiad Fhear
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Aye mair questions than answers in a world where the past was a different place - that cannae be revisited! Family surnames being researched ... Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson Drummond, Pearson, Laing ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more! Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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ostler
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Great Granddad John Angus Sutherland (1875-1963)
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Are you a descendant of Elizabeth and Andrew? If so I'd be interested in what you have and likewise can give you details back to the original Dewars.
Sorry John, Elizabeth is a bit distantly related to me: she's my 2nd cousin 4 times removed!  I'm still interested in any descendants of hers and will let you know if I find anything.
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All countries/counties
Kinnes, Ostler, Terras (and all variations!!)
Scotland
Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay)
Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm
Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee)
Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul, Small
Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)
England
Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton
Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon
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Evelina
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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I have another LAING mystery, can anyone help solve it? 
1851 census Crichton - Midlothian, Duncan Laing, Schoolteacher, aged 50 from Torryburn in Fife is living with his wife Mary Ann Howell also 50 from England. With them is Mary Ann Dewar 9 and it says granddaughter.
I do have a son for Duncan & Mary Ann also Duncan born 1824 in Dunfermline Fife and living with them in Crichton on the 1841 census, he is a Joiner. But if Mary Ann Dewar was his, her name would be laing. So I started looking for a daughter but no trace.
Now in 1861 Mary Ann dewar, teacher, aged 19 is still with the 'Grandparents' but done as a Lodger this time not as a granddaughter. By 1871 she is missing so i found a mariage in 1863 of a Mary Ann Dewar, Teacher to a Robert Robson but her parents as down as John Dewar and Ann Green.
I cannot trace the son Duncan after the 1841 census nor find anyother children for Duncan & Mary Ann in Fife or Midlothian.
Anyone come across these names? Thanks Evelina
I have just re-looked at the mc and the couple on the next wedding the Mothers name is Anna Bruce nee Laing. Now that must be a coincidence or did the registrar in 1863 mix up the mothers maiden names???/ Any one come across anything like that?
Mary Ann Dewar's dc does have the Ann Green as Mother but her husband registered the death and he may have copied the names from the mc.
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Porter & Chalmers - Perthshire, Laing - West Fife, Stirrat - Glasgow, Ferguson - Glasgow & Skye, Coulter & Wilson - Northern Ireland, Kean - Glasgow & Northern Ireland. Ferrier - Perthshire. Lawton - Church Lawton, Cheshire.
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