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Topic: Drymen Parish - help with placename pls! COMPLETED THANKS! (Read 606 times)
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valr
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Hi all
My gggg grandfather Duncan Stewart (b 1806 Balquhidder) was a labourer at Bohellochan, Drymen when he married in 1829.
I cannot find it on a modern map. Does anyone know where it is or was, or any alternative spellings?
I think it was probably a farm as he was subsequently an agricultural labourer before becoming a miller in Perthshire.
Thanks in advance for any pointers!
Val
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« Last Edit: Sunday 15 February 09 01:02 UTC (UK) by valr »
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Scotland -McCall, King, Morrison, Thomson, Mcfarlane, Stewart, Dow, Jolly, Roberston, Christie
England - Roberts, Steel, Underhill, Brookes, Pope, Stump
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ibi
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ScotsOrigins has a very useful, and free!, search facility based on every place name in the Scottish 1881 census.
It's particularly useful on the basis that any fragment of a name can be put in, from the beginning, middle, or end of a possible placename.
Sadly, there's no match that I can see for Bohellochan.
Maybe someone will be more successful with an old maps site.........
ibi
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valr
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thanks very much for looking! And for pointing out that search facility I didn't know about ...
Val
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valr
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Thanks Dave
I have other Stewarts at Milton of Buchanan about the same time ... Bohellochan is a wee bit too far away in spelling I think at that date.... I think.... ??
Hoping somebody local comes along!! Canny beat local knowledge. My brother lives in Buchlyvie - maybe I should go and ask the locals in the pub he goes to 
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ibi
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Weel spotted.
There's a few, place names based on 'Boquhan' in the County of Stirling, e.g. Parks of Boquhan and the like, but nothing in the parish of Drymen.
The only other 1881 place name starting thus is Boquhapple in the parish of Kincardine.
ibi
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daval57
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You and the locals ken best val! 
I was just thinking about how I, or a local would pronounce Bohellochan. Boquhan sounds likely.
It's like Anstruther - Ainster.
I wouldn't rule it out.
Dave
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------------------- FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire) BORTHWICK (Midlothian) ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim) ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow) FORTUNE (East Lothian) BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian) ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire) OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES http://daval57.tribalpages.com/ |
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ibi
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The plot thickens.
Three of the County of Stirling instances of a placename involving Boquhan are in Killearn which has a long border with Drymen, so I wonder is someone got their exact location a wee bit wrong .................... (the fourth is in Gargunnock parish).
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apanderson
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Just in case anybody thinks we've all got the name wrong, here's a wee snippet to show how legible the handwriting is.
Anne
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daval57
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That's great to see Anne.
Don't you just love some of the old script. I prefer the copperplate stuff though.
I never doubted Val or you regarding the spelling of Bohellochan. In the absence of other evidence, I'm just offering suggestions.
Dave
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------------------- FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire) BORTHWICK (Midlothian) ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim) ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow) FORTUNE (East Lothian) BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian) ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire) OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES http://daval57.tribalpages.com/ |
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valr
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Thanks Anne but I actually gave Ryk Brown that info about the descendants of Duncans daughter Margaret... she is my gg grandmother.
MMmmm thanks everyone for the input and efforts on my behalf but I dont think I am much further forward with Bohellochan..
Duncans first child was born in Auchilty, Drymen - dont know where that is either!!
Just occurred to me - I wonder if it is a corruption of something like Bowhill Lochan ? ie some wee place near a small loch in Drymen parish?
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ibi
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Another source that I use for placenames is the Ordnance Survey listing of every placename on their 1:50,000 (1.25 inches to the mile) Landranger series of maps. ( I have it in hard copy form, but I believe that it's now available on the www.)
While the Landranger maps date from the 1950s, placenames, with one major exception, are very long lasting. The exception relates to 'industrial revolution' villages created in the late 1700s and then the 1800s in conjunction with the on-site extraction (mining mostly) and processing of ironstone and other minerals. Many of these newly created villlages vanished once the resources involved were worked out.
There's several minor exceptions but this is not the time or place to go into those in detail.
I've looked at every single name in this OS listing starting with 'Bo.....' and there is absolutely bl***y nothing that even remotely matches.
That could leave us with the 'ear of the hearer' effect in terms of the session clerk or minister faithfully recording what he thought he heard, - the minister was often from outside the area, as was the schoolmaster who often was the session clerk,- always subject, of course, to the opinions in the local pubs  , re the placename not the origins of the minister and schoolmaster, I hasten to add ! 
And also subject, of course, to any kind person who has a time-consuming high magnification look at the mid/late 1800s 6 inch to the mile map (just over 1:10,000) for the area on the National Library of Scotland website , see the quite marvellous resource at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,351410.msg2295143.html#msg2295143
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daval57
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Very eloquent ma son.
I'm still almost convinced it is Boquhan / Boquan.
Dave
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