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Topic: information on christie family of 15-17 (Read 1877 times)
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MonicaLesl
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Sounds like twins Sicknote 
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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jollyrob
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sorry i have spotted an error from my family tree i had henry as being born in 1885, though im not sure why i did that so i was getting very confused trusting that date, but you are right it all makes a bit more sense now!! sorry for the error, i ahve 2 young children and sometimes i try to enter new info with them on my knee and it leads to errors. sorry
i agree that the girls sound like twins. there are an awful lot of child deaths was it normal to have so many or is it cos they were particularly poor, was there a disease going around at the time that would explain some deaths, i know you cant be sure without death certs but are there any obvious contenders.
i will get into confirming where margaret and william originate from and the death certificate for susan.
thanks again!
rob
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MonicaLesl
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Rob
I've looked at that death cert for Susan in Jan 1909. She shows as born in 1908 (4 months old at her death). Parents confirmed as William Christie and Margaret Gibson, so they had arrived in Linlithgow by late 1908/early 1909 - they show at Bridgend  Susan's birth is not showing on Scotlands People (SP), so likely the family came over after her birth between Oct 1908 to Jan 1909.so you will have to order one of the later births via SP or the GROS. There is the on line cut off for births on SP of 1907, anything after this date has to be ordered.
Now in respect of finding out where in Ireland they hailed from, it is incredibly hard to normally find this info out, however a couple of routes open to you:
1. Scottish birth certs from mid 1860s include the date and place of parents' marriage  So, any of their children's birth certs from Scotland will include this information. You know that Susan doesn't look to have been born in Scotland. There are only 8 Christie births showing in Linlithgow on SP between 1909 - 1919 (avoiding anything from 1920 when you know Henry married which would confuse matters). I would probably look to order either of the Mary births (corresponding with the deaths that Sicknote found). Linlithgow births for a Mary Christie show on SP in 1912 and 1915.
2. The next census due is the release of the 1911 census, rumoured for early release at some point next year. A lot of people of Irish origin simply stated Ireland for a birth place, however, you may be lucky and find that William and Margaret show an actual Irish County for their birth place.
Best route at this stage would be to order the birth of one of the girls, Mary, that died young.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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KenChri
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Hi, I am the grandson of William Christie and Margaret Gibson who came to Scotland in the first decade of the 20th century from County Tyrone in Ireland and can give you more information if you are still looking for this. As I interpret your enquiry you must be my cousin twice removed.
I am the son of Robert Christie - Harry's youngest brother.
Ken Christie
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jollyrob
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hello
we have many stories about robert christie i wonder if any are true.
we have it that he was the elder brother of harry (obviously untrue). he was a jp and a councillor and an mp and that it was through his influence that harrys family were able to aquire a bigger house in a nicer part of town.
we also believe that he wrote a book about the crossing of william and margaret. the story holds that they were on the way to america when they had to make shore in paisley and that the family couldnt afford to wait for the boat to be fixed so had to move more inland to earn money. is any of this true?
we have siblings
Robert 1900, Henry 1902 ( harry), susan 1908-1909, Mary 1912-1914, Mary 1915-1916, William 1924-1924.
siblings after henry are from the burial records and we assume that there were more surviving siblings, if you know any names that would be great.
we have no information on william and margaret other than what we have gathered from burial records and i did find a possible marriage between the 2 in county tyrone.
Married on 5th july 1900 in fivemiletown county tyrone NI clogher parish church of ireland
can you fill in any gaps??
rob
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Deborah Paris
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Hi Rob, guess what! We are related. My name is Deborah Paris and my mother is Catherine Christie, daughter of Elizabeth Jamieson and Henry Christie. My mother is one of 16 children, and her siblings include Susan, Phyllis, Pearl, Brenda, George, James, Harry, Robert, to name a few. My mother grew up in Bridgend Lintlithgow West Lothian. I have been doing research myself and have managed to get copies of birth certificates. I met my grandmother Elizabeth when I was young, and have a photo of her, they lived a quiet life in a small Village. Henry was a shale miner and lorry driver, and came from County Tyrone in Ireland. Unfortunately my mother passed away in 1986. I have 2 sisters Patricia Elizabeth Jamieson Paris and Cathrine Paris. My uncle, George Christie, still lives in Linlithgow and his son George and daughter Karen also. We have another uncle that lives in Weymouth England, Jim Christie. Our uncle George Christie would have all the history you are looking for. Are you planning to visit Scotland? I was thinking of visiting to look at all the family homes and burials and visit some relatives. would be interesting in connecting regarding a trip to do family research if you are interested. I live in Canada. Deborah
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Deborah Paris
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Hi there, yes, Gideon Paris, my father named after his father, Gideon Paris, had a farm in Birnie hill, a dairy farm I believe. My middle name is Eleanor, am named after Eleanor Balfour Caskey. My grandmother Flora Jane Stewart died in her 40s and I believe I have a copy of family death certificates which show death from heart failure and Gideon from thrombosis. I visited my Auntie Effie (named after Euphemia and her married name is Ramage) back in 1991; she lived on Easter Road in Edinburgh, passed away a number of years ago, she had a son Stewart who predeceased her, and he had a twin sister, and another son that lives in England. From what I have been told Eleanor Caskey's father was a Minister of the Church of Scotland. Also, we are related through marriage to the Johnstons, they created the product called "Bovril" which was invented for soldiers in WW2. There is a family tree posted on a website, not sure who created it, but it shows Flora Stewart's family. Here is the link. Are we related?
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/o/f/Jeanette-Hoffie-/PDFGENEO3.pdf
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KenChri
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Hi Deborah, yes I remember George talking about his sister in Canada quite a lot. I was only 6 when your mother left so I cant remember how she looked. I'm in contact with George regularly and would be happy to receive private email from you to research and catch up.
I'm also chatting with Rob on this subject.
Ken
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jollyrob
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wow how exciting, lots of family.
would definately be up for a family visit to learn more about the christies in scotland. we live in north wales and have never visited linlithgow. i have 2 small children but could make it a nice camping trip, you are of course welcome in north wales too if you head this way.
i will set to adding all these new names to my family tree
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