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krisesjoint
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Hi flogged,
To change the title from now on you need to alter it in the first post not the current post. Altering the current title means it will only appear on that post.  Please do not bother.
I have decided it is best if I retitle the thread and move it to Australia. You already have a thread on the Wexford Board. This thread started out as a Cornish Request but I established straight away that there was no George HENDERSON born at the right time in Cornwall. Since that time all I have posted is SA information.
The man who arrived in 1855 on the TELEGRAPH is a Shepherd from Wiltshire. Piano Turner is certainly interesting given your known information on your George, maybe born Wexford belongs to your man also, although age is not right if someone has mixed up two Georges. BISA is not always 100% accurate as I have said. We know this man who arrived on the TELEGRAPH was alive in 1870, so he did not die in 1867. Who did? Perhaps your man was from Wexford too but I doubt born about 1796 seems more likely 1802-1804
I believe I have explored this as much as I can. They certainly have not made themselves visible here. I feel I have exhausted all my ideas on where else to look. I have tried most of the more obscure things I can think of. There is one more thing I will try when next at the library. An index of newspaper articles for early years. Just maybe there will be a mention though I am not holding my breath.
I have thought on this all night and all morning and I feel that 1867 death just has to be your George. I am convinced it must be. There is no other George in Adelaide to fit. I have read what has been posted in other places and noone has his death. We know your George arrived in 1838 aged 34 according to the reports. We have this death
HENDERSON George died 29 May 1867 Adelaide [HS] Dist Ade 27 356. He was aged 65 no marital status, relative or residence is listed.
Age is pretty good.
I have found that as you do not live in Adelaide you could apply for a free transcript of this certificate.
Free Transcriptions of Adelaide Registration District BMD Certificates
http://gravesecrets.weebly.com/adelaide-bdm-free-transcriptions.html
I have not used the service and have only just discovered its existence this morning, it was in a post to all of you earlier but I have an unstable internet connection this morning and I lost it. Well worth either yourself or one of the others applying. I have been trying to retrace my earlier steps reworking my way through all I said. (and of course redoing something that bit seems to grow so it has taken me till lunchtime to get this far) I wouldn't advise you do not all inundate them with requests for the same information - perhaps one of you apply and post the information here once you have it. We would all love to know what it says.
Cheers again......Kris 
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Just one other thing - I think George and family may have been in SA a little longer than you think as we have young Claude aged 11 in the destitute asylum in 1855 after having been "deserted by his father". I find it hard to believe that an 11 year old got all the way back to Adelaide alone.......Kris
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Kris, on death cert of his wife it names all the children and there age aty the time, on the cert it states theys were in Adelaide 13 yrs and then 40 yrs in Vic, we have moved house twice in past 6 months and so the folder with certs is hidden, but will scratch deeper for it to confirm the above.
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Freer, Stewart, Blair, Bruce, Wylie, Henderson, Nichols, Ward, Weddell, Waddell, Lear, Gruneison, Maitland, Freeman, Sawyers, Logan, Phillips, Whitely.
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flogged
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Hi Kris, I have just made confirmation of George,
c1796 Wex Ire, died 30 May 1867 in Adelaide SA,
Also saying, arrived 1855 "TELEGRAPH"
occ; Piano Tuner, labourer,
res; Hindmarsh,
rel; Prot,
married; unknown- 1 son 2 daus
another next to this is;
Henderson George, arr by 1842,
res; Thebarton,
rel; Rc
mar; Regina Maria,
ch; Theophily Chas b1842 - Claude b1844
on Regina's death cert it has;
Widow of Music Teacher
19 Nov 1892, Harrison st City of Bendigo
children named on cert;
George William Francis age 60yrs
Arthur Louis age 57yrs
Regina Catherine, dead
Constance, dead
John Young, dead
Theophilus Charles age 50yrs
Claude age 48yrs
Emma, dead (name hard to read)
Francis Charles 44yrs
Septimus, dead
resided 13yrs Adelaide & 40 yrs Victoria
also indicates that George & Regina married in London,
she was 82 when died making her birth at 1810.
On marriage cert for;
Theophilus Charles & Christina Thomas
April 25 1868 Ballarat,
Theophilus as born in Adelaide,
George (father) Prof of music, not writen in as dead.
with that, I assume George was still alive in 1868.
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Freer, Stewart, Blair, Bruce, Wylie, Henderson, Nichols, Ward, Weddell, Waddell, Lear, Gruneison, Maitland, Freeman, Sawyers, Logan, Phillips, Whitely.
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TRAVELBUG
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I have just received the death transcription from Unley Library for George Henderson. His occupation is listed as Music Tuner, age, above 65 years, and cause of death accidentally killed. He died 29 May 1867, and was buried at West Terrace Cemetery on 31 May 1867.
This sounds like our guy. If he was accidentally killed, does that mean he would have had an inquest? If so, where would I find the details? His death was registered by an old lady (spidery hand) called Sarah McLenachan(as a wild guess) .
No other information is given - apart from place of death Adelaide Hospital.
From what I can deduce; it appears the family split up, early to middle 1850's. Claude stayed with his father in Thebarton, while the rest of the family went to the gold fields. Claude was later abandoned by his father, and presumably went to join his mother in Bendigo. He is buried at Bendigo Cemetery 30/3/1896.
What does everybody think?
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Hi Travelbug, the info does appear to be very good and reliable and pretty much on the mark, so far as an inquest for the death so far as Adelaide or South Aust goes, I can only think perhaps question the local court or council, I personally don't know of how things work for this area of things, but there is someone out there who will have that answer.
As I wrote a couple of days ago, George was born Wexford Ireland c1796, was a music professor as recorded on his son's marriage cert in 1868, but was not recorded as deceased in 1868 on the certificate.
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cando
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South Australian Gazetted Deaths
Searchable database of more than 5,000 deaths extracted from police reports in the South Australian Government Gazettes in the period 1845-1941, including the Northern Territory up to the end of 1910 when the Commonwealth Government took over its administration.
http://www.adelaideco-op.familyhistorysa.info/gazettedeaths.html
HENDERSON George
Death date 29 May 1867
Death place Hospital, Adelaide
Date reported 30 May 1867
Cando
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Thanks Cando, that's a confirmation, all we need is the actual cause of death now other than "accidental"
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cando
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You would need to follow up the entry in the Government Gazette for the period or there is a CD and book -
South Australian Gazetted Deaths by Georgina Bliss - mentioned on the linked website on my previous post.
Additional information may be found in the book and CD, available from Gould Genealogy.
Perhaps you could ask at your local library.
Cheers
Cando
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Thankyou Cando, memory loss from operation to the grey matter, clues like the ones you gave help me to work harder.
I do appreciate the help.
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Found this in Police report Deaths in public Places: George Henderson; Abt. 60 yrs, 5’6” or 7” high, stout build, knocked down by a car in Rosina St and taken to hospital. Supposed to have a wife in Victoria
30/5/1867
I find it a bit weird that George's son, George Jr. was knocked down and killed by a bolting horse, 32 years later.
How many cars were there in Adelaide in 1867?!
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Interesting, perhaps a rail car,
when did trains begin in Adelaide?
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Looking at South Aust rail, it appears to have been up and running strong during the 1850's, it may be possible George was struck by a rail car.
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krisesjoint
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Great news TRAVELBUG
I knew it had to be him. I will take a look at the government gazette when I am at the library this week.
Cheers Kris
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