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flogged
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You are all brilliant with the help and advice,
helps me to think more and of course fill the gaps.
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Freer, Stewart, Blair, Bruce, Wylie, Henderson, Nichols, Ward, Weddell, Waddell, Lear, Gruneison, Maitland, Freeman, Sawyers, Logan, Phillips, Whitely.
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TRAVELBUG
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Somehow I don't think it was a rail car. They require tracks, don't they? Rosina St. is an alleyway in what was the seedier, slummy side of town. Not a main thoroughfare. I googled Rosina St. The references in The Manning Index of S.A. History make interesting reading.
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flogged
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Travelbug, sound fair enough to me, being asn alley it may have been too small for common horse and cart, (curiosity) being the slummy side of town so to speak, after separation from Regina he went down hill and hit the bottle (maybe) for a music professor the slum side of town would not be a place for such a person to be in good times, perhaps he was a bit drunk and fell or was hit by a cart out on the main street and crawlled into the alley, car may be a typo, the above is possible however not correct at this time, I will make request for death cert and doc report, surely something was done and written up for a music professor.
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cando
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Flogged the death cert won't give you very much information. I would wait for Kris who has offered to look at the Government Gazette for you.
Information on SA death certs
1842-1907
* Date of Death
* Name
* Sex
* Age
* Occupation
* Usual Residence
* Cause of Death
* Place of Death
* Informant
I agree with your comments about Rosina Street. Railways never in that part of the CBD.
I actually attended the 150 celebrations at of the first railway SA in Goolwa a few years ago..probably five or six. The Port railway was built c1856. The railway lines skirt the CBD as the CBD area rises steeply from the rail terminus on North Terrace. None of the horse drawn trams could have negotiated alleyway.
Flogged I would keep checking the digitised newspapers on
http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home
The South Australian is shown as covering 1860-1869 but only the first two years of the 1860's have been processed.
Cheers
Cando
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flogged
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Thanks Cando, looking at the layout of Rosina st and other close by, it was or seems to still be the learning center with T.A.F.E and other facilities, perhaps this is where George did work as music professor.
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TRAVELBUG
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Was he really a music professor?  When he applied for migration he stated his occupation as labourer/soap maker. Did he just morph into one on the long sea journey to the "new world" where a new life and a new start were possible in a distant land where people didn't ask too many questions. 
Remember none of his Australian born children had their births registered - perhaps so that his history could not be traced.
Both Theophilus and George said he was a professor of music on their marriage certificates, but George also stated he was living in London 6 years after his death.
Regina's death certificate said he was a music teacher, and his own death cert. calls him a music tuner.
There is too much mystery about this man. Maybe he was a shady character who fitted into the seedier side of town. Maybe he had delusions of grandeur and drove his wife away. He certainly did not handle responsibility too well as proved by abandoning his 11 year old son, Claude.
I know the family loved music, but none of them followed him in that profession. But they were adventurers and gamblers, trying their luck in the gold fields, firstly in Victoria and then some went to W.A.
It's such fun trying to piece the pieces together.
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flogged
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Travelbug, my original search was carried out by Janet Reakes in 1988, it had that he came from London with wife Regina and children, "Theophilus" being my line, in her find Janet has George as a piano labourer/tuner in London, but in Adelaide as a Professor of Music, on marriage cert for Theophilus George is writen as Prof of Music, in a listing I have from at least mid 1800's, it has all the "Hendersons" in it, it has George Henderson born Wexford Ireland c1796,
Prof of Music, also on death cert for Regina Nov 1892, George is on that cert as Prof of Music. The details given a couple weeks ago by Kris also covers this.
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TRAVELBUG
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Have you been able to find out anything about his life in Wexford?
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flogged
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Travelbug, are you a him or a her?
do I say "G'day mate" or "Good day Ma'am"?
as yet I have not had responses for Henderson in Ireland at all,
I originally had my details for England, London as that is where the marriage was and arrival in Sth Aus with at least 4 children, some months back someone mentions Wexford, then a few weeks back Kris also mentions Wexford at c1796, I then think back at a paper given to me from Janet Reakes, I did not understand what the print was for apart from having "Henderson" names, I read through it and found George at Wexford.
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krisesjoint
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Hi flogged and TRAVELBUG,
Just back from the library. Not much to report I am afraid
Returns of all persons, without relations, who have died or been found dead in Public Places
Died 29 May 1867 Hospital Adelaide of accidental. Aged 65 years. Inquest Yes. Government Gazette page 623 reported 30 May 1867 Death Reg SA BMD Ade Book 27 Page 356
Note: Henderson was knocked down by a car in Rosina St and taken to hospital. Has wife in Victoria.
Confirmed in Governmant Gazette 1867 Page 623
George Henderson: Reported May 30
Description of Body - About 60 years old, 5’6 or 7 inches high, stout build.
Circumstances attending the decease or finding of the body: Knocked down by a car in Rosina St and taken to hospital.
All information received by Police: An inquest was held and a verdict returned of accidental death. Supposed to have a wife in Victoria.
Cheers Kris 
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flogged
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Hi Kris, thankyou, it appears that George and Regina had separated for some time or divorced looking at that, I have had contact with Adelaide Uni, they do not have record of George working for them as they did not have the facility available until about 1885, it may be possible that he titled himself as Prof of Music in order to gain work teaching piano at home (Maybe)
but this mention of "car" what would have been called a "car" at that time?
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The Register 31 May 1867
Fatal Accident: - A fatal accident occurred on Wednesday night to an elderly person named George HENDERSON, living in Adelaide, but of no particular occupation. He was knocked down and run over about 11 o'clock in Rosina Street by a car driven by a man named BODDINGTON, who shouted to him to get out of the way, but it is supposed the unfortunate man did not hear him. BODDINGTON took him to the Star Hotel, but the services of a doctor not being procurable at once, conveyed him to the Hospital, but the injuries he received were so severe that death shortly ensued. An Inquest was held on Thursday by Mr INGLEBY, when, after the examination of several witnesses. a verdict of "Accidental Death" was returned. We understand that no blame is attached to the cardriver, who did all he could for HENDERSON after the occurrence of the accident.
Like TRAVELBUG I do not think this man was a Professor of Music. Seems he was a labourer, soap maker and piano tuner. Perhaps he came into contact with Regina by tuning her piano in London. Regina and her sisters were certainly musical (music teachers). I do recall when I first started looking into this for flogged I did find a sister teaching music in London after Regina and Louisa immigrated. Perhaps Regina preferred to tell her children he was a professor, after all they had come from upper class roots. Seems the children believed he was a professor and perhaps no-one ever knew what fate had befallen him, so it was easier to think of him as being back in London.
Cheers Kris
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Hi flogged,
Certainly no divorce listed in Adelaide (I looked)
A car would been a horse drawn car.
Description of a car - a vehicle moving on wheels. The origin of the word is a wheeled vehicle - from the latin "carrus"
Once a motor was added they were known by so many horse power.
Cheers Kris
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Thanks Kris, I though perhaps cart and was possibly knocked over as mention in previous entry, I have a listing of Hendersons during his time in Adelaide, he is with Regina and Theophilus is mentioned as well, George is entered as a Prof of Music, I also have it that Regina was born at Ballarat, perhaps as a child the family moved to London and this is where George and Regina met.
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I'm a female, but I'd prefer g'day mate to g'day ma'am!
Regina Maria was born in Middlesex in 1810. She was the daughter of Charles Louis Gruneisen and Mary Ann Cole. They had 5 children that I know of. Claudia,1805 Charles Lewis, 1806-1879, Regina, Francis Christian 1812-1872, and Louisa Placid, 1815. Charles Lewis was a very interesting person who is listed in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography - a journalist, opera lover, and influential in London society.
Regina and Louisa immigrated together in 1838. I don't know anything about Claudia, but one of Francis Christians relatives has migrated in the last decade to Australia and was surprised to find all these relatives here. His son is a trumpet player in an orchestra.
All my info is on ancestry.com.au.
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