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doctorbob
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Lucy Scantlebury CRABB b. 1850, Bodmin
« on: Friday 13 February 09 14:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Further to my other Crabb entry.

The Birth Cert for Lucy Scantlebury Crabb shows NO FATHER. Humph!

Born Jan 1850, Bodmin, living in Downing Street.

In the 1851:
John Scantlebury  Unm head 23 house painter
Catherine CRABB Mar Lodger 29 woolcomber's wife
Lucy CRABB Unm Lodger 1
Eliza CRABB Unm Lodger 12


In 1843 Benjamin Crabb married ... might have been Catherine Smith. I have ordered the MC, and hope her age is 21-ish!! And also his status is widower.

I am suspecting that Benjamin's first wife Caroline died soon after Eliza (1840) was born. There was the North Tawton typhoid outbreak at that time. He moved back to Bodmin with Eliza and re-married.

I can place a Benjamin Crabb (a wool comber) in Bodmin in 1843 via a court case in the 1843 newpaper. I am surmising that it' s MY Benjamin Crabb.

Now, at some point the family lodged in Bodmin with John Scantlebury. In 1849 Catherine was with a child by a "Scantlebury", probably John. she was still married to Benjamin when Lucy was born. So, put the father's name as the middle name. Something happened to Benjamin - no sign of him in 1851 or later. Perhaps he simply disowned the family

A Benjamin CRABB dies in 1848 in Frome. Is this mine? Would a DC help establlish this?

Another in 1850 in Westminster ... not likely to be mine.

Any help or other ideas would be very welcome.

Rob
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Re: Lucy Scantlebury CRABB b. 1850, Bodmin
« Reply #1 on: Friday 01 May 09 03:37 UTC (UK) »

1871 England Census
Lucy Crabb
Age 21
Est 1850
Servant
born Bodmin Cornwall


on same census sheet
a few doors down
Thos Scantlebury 64 
Ann Scantlebury 65 
Joseph Sandercock 15 



1881 census
Lucy crabb  Serv  U  Female  28  Bodmin Cornwall     

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doctorbob
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Re: Lucy Scantlebury CRABB b. 1850, Bodmin
« Reply #2 on: Friday 01 May 09 09:00 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sylvia,

Many thanks. The Crabb - Scantlebury link is useful.

Eliza (b. 1840) was to Benjamin and Catherine Crabb (formerly Smith) - so the BC says ... so not married when living in North Tawton!

Further info I have ... Benjamin married Catherine (Smith) in 1843, Bodmin. They aslo had a son James in 1843, who died 10  months later of "a fit".  An inquest was held. There is also a possble Edward born to them in 1845, which I have yet to check.

Catherine died in 1854 (age 30), and was in the Bodmin Workhouse. Also, another son James died in 1854, 3 months later. He was born 1853. I suspect this is another "Scantlebury" child.

Her Death cert says (wife of Benjamin Crabb, woolcomber). Not "widow". The informant was a Mrs Brown - not a crabb or a Scantlebury.

So, it looks like she was disowned.

I still have no idea what happened to Benjamin after 1844 (when James died).

No sign of him in a census anywhere, and so sign of a death. Curious.

Benjamin's father was James, and when he married in 1843, was down as an "Inn Keeper". James Crabb is down as the Inn Keeper for the Bull's Head in Callington in 1823 and 1830. By 1844 it was being run by Thomas Carpenter.

I am guessing this is him.

There is a will for a James Crabb, gentleman of Callington, made in 1856, he died 1857. He left money and a house to a son Benjamin!

However, even though I have a lot of detail on this line (they married into the Edgcumbes etc), I am thinking that this James may not be the same James running the Inn.

I am prepared to believe they are related in some way because of familial names ... but it sort of doesn't ring true with Benjamin being a woolcomber (pretty low down, even as an apprenticed trade), and his father owning farms and land and umpteen houses and cash! Also, if Benjamin was named in the Will in 1856, you would assume that it was known that he was alive and kicking ... and there seems to be no sign of him ... the others in the Will are around.

So, this one is still curious ...

So, any more digging would be great ...

Thanks,

Rob
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Re: Lucy Scantlebury CRABB b. 1850, Bodmin
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 May 09 20:37 UTC (UK) »

I am descended from a family called Fowell who were well to do gentlemen from Calstock.

In his will one Henry Fowell died whilst his children were still young. He left money in trust for them but charged his wife with getting each son into a trade before he could inherit.

So perhaps this is what James Crabb did with his children. The wool trade was a very prosperous one so perhaps James was keen for Ben to start at the grass roots and work his way up.


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Re: Lucy Scantlebury CRABB b. 1850, Bodmin
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 30 May 09 08:41 UTC (UK) »

http://crabbe.info/

have you seen this site

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Re: Lucy Scantlebury CRABB b. 1850, Bodmin
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 30 May 09 22:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sylvia, thanks,

Yes I have seen this one. My Crabb line does not appear to link in with any of the hundreds of Crabbs here ... very strange, but true!

Regards,

Rob
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