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Zebulum Ayres
« on: Friday 13 February 09 18:23 UTC (UK) »
My late mother when in her nineties told me that amongst her many Uncles was one named Zebulum . He would have been the child of James Ayres and Emily nee Cornwell. I have been unable to find any trace of his birth or death. Did he really exist? The name seems somewhat improbable.
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #1 on: Friday 13 February 09 18:34 UTC (UK) »
Try Zebulon- a Biblical name meaning dwelling of honour and one of Jacob's sons. The one I knew of was called Zeb.
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #2 on: Friday 13 February 09 18:43 UTC (UK) »
That is most helpful thanks, but he still doesn't appear to be registered anywhere that I can find.
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #3 on: Friday 13 February 09 18:47 UTC (UK) »
Theres a James / Emily family in Bottisham (Newmarket), with a son called Absalom ?

He was born c1885, Loders, Cambs .....

RG13/1540; Folio: 27; Page: 15
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 February 09 18:36 UTC (UK) »
I am quite confident that Absolom Ayres b Lode 1885 was Zebulon, or whatever. Absolom was my mother's uncle, he was known as Mott, and I am told that Mott's Cottage Lode is owned by a family member.
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 February 09 23:06 UTC (UK) »
Glad to have been able to help  Smiley
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 February 09 23:18 UTC (UK) »
Birth Reg Dec 1884
AYRES Absalom
Newmarket Vol 3b Page 537

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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 February 09 23:27 UTC (UK) »
Just as an aside,the grandad in the Walton's was called Zebulon  Wink
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 10 May 09 09:04 UTC (UK) »
Can I amend my last posting in this thread? I should have said that Absolom Ayres was NOT Zebulon. My great grandparents, James Ayres and Emily nee Cornwell are reputed to have had up to 12 children, reports differ, but I have only been able to find 9 of them. Zebulon would have been born at Bottisham Lode between 1870, and 1890. The parents married young and their oldest (my grandfather Samuel) was b1868, the youngest known James was b1889, there are several gaps in the seies so to speak. Can anyone help?
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 10 May 09 09:37 UTC (UK) »
Hi

Have you checked the 1911 census?  James (1844) & Emily still appear to be in Newmarket, Cambs.  The image should tell you how many children were born to the marriage, and how many were still alive at the time of the census.

Is it possible that one of your grandfather James's sisters married a Zebulun?  He would still have been your mother's uncle, just not a blood relation.

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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 10 May 09 10:09 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Gaie on Sunday 10 May 09 09:37 UTC (UK)

Is it possible that one of your grandfather James's sisters married a Zebulun?  He would still have been your mother's uncle, just not a blood relation.

Kind regards
Gaie

Good thinking Gaie  Grin

I have searched for any Newmarket births between 1869- and 1892 with a name anything similar to Zebulon and not found one.So your idea of a marriage to someone of that name is good!

Carol

Added- can't find one though  Sad
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Wensley,Somerset

Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland
Blake and Maloney from  Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 10 May 09 10:48 UTC (UK) »
Hmmm...

In the 1871 Census there is James (1844) & Emily with son James (1868; enumerated as a scholar at the age of 3 Shocked) and daughter Ruth (c1870); Ruth has disappeared by 1881.  And there are no birth or death regs for a Ruth in Newmarket between 1869-1881  Huh

Parish records for Bottisham appear rather secretive; LDS do have microfiche of transcribed birth records 1859-1950, but they are not for circulation  Huh Huh  Films of bishop's transcripts are 1599-1879, and parish records 1561-1876 are available, but Bottisham already seems to have been transcribed to the IGI, and these Ayres aren't showing up, let alone a Zeb....  Huh Huh

Re-think time .... Grin Grin

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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 10 May 09 18:28 UTC (UK) »
In 1891 their children were Samuel 23; Eli 17; Asher 11; Aaron 8; Absolum 6; Elizabeth 4; James 2. There were no additional children in 1901. Doubtless you've found the family in 1881 on www.familysearch.org, where only the eldest three show.

So if there was a Zebulun he appears to have been born and died between censuses.

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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 14:48 UTC (UK) »
Thanks to everyone for your help, I believe that Zebulon did in fact die between censuses, like his elder sister Ruth, but she did at least show on the 1871. The idea Gaie of checking the 1911 census to establish how many children born to the marriage is most helpful; strangely I had done this with my grandparents' marriage , as their family is oddly spaced, births 1897, 1898, 1903, and then nothing, my grandmother was 31 when my mother was born in 1903 so I would have expected at least 4 more! I did not however think laterally enough and check for the information on my greatgrandparents marriage, but of course it should be there. Thanks again,
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 19:56 UTC (UK) »
Hi Roger

I'm wondering whether the Ayres were Wesleyan or Primitive Methodists, as they don't appear in the CoE parish records and in view of the zealous naming of the children.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/CAM/Bottisham/index.html
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~engcam/method.htm

Only viewable at Cambridgeshire Record Office, but this line may be worth pursuing.

Did your mother give the impression that she knew or had met Zebulom/un?  Perhaps it was a middle name of one of the siblings already identified and by which he was known to the family?

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