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Topic: BIRMINGHAM family in Tuam-Galway-Ireland (Read 1506 times)
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shanew147
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Thank you so much for that Info...I am trying to establish when they came to England, I did found them on the 1901 English Census,but not to sure what year they came here!
Also if anybody can help with where the name Birmingham/Bermingham derived from and any info on whom Peter Birmingham's & Bridget Corless Parents where or even thei date of births would be great?
Hodgkiss77
Bermingham seems to be a name with many connections in Tuam
Bermingham House - "2mi/3km east of Tuam stands Bermingham House (1730), with good plasterwork and fine furniture. Hobbies & Activities category: Decorative arts display; Furniture display; Manor or country house" (http://www.planetware.com/tuam/bermingham-house-irl-ga-berh.htm & http://www.galwayhorse.com/berhse.html )
This was for sale recently - at just € 3.5 million! (http://www.sherryfitz.ie/resi/buy/propertydetail.aspx?id=262889&ST=1&pc=1)
1824 (Pigots)
Edward Birmingham , esq. Lack
Michl. Birmingham, Dalgan
Thos. Birmingham, esq. Ash-grove
1846 (Slaters)
Entry for Dunmore, Co. Galway (close to Tuam) includes the following : ".... The church forms a portion of the ancient monastery, said to have been founded by the Berminghams, barons of Athenry. There is also a chapel for Roman Catholics. Bermingham Castle, a beautiful ruin, once the seat of that ancient family, is in the neighbourhood"
Enrtry for Atherny, Co. Galway includes : "The ruin of a Dominican abbey here, from its antiquity and style of architecture, is the admiration of all strangers. It was founded by Myler De Bermingham, second baron of Athenry, in 1241, and was dedicated to St. Peter and St. Paul. ...."
De Bermingham seems to have been a Norman name. There's no way to be certain at this stage that these Bermingham/Birmingham people are connected - but it shows that the name was present in and around Tuam for quite a while.
Shane
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HODGKISS77
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Hello,
Thank you for the Info...What a beautiful House the Berminghma House is! I wondered if anybody knows of the place 'AGLORAGH' Tuam-Co.Galway this semsto be the place my Great Grandmother MARY BERMINGHAM was born in 1865.
Any info would be of great help, I have googled teh place and it has come up with this..........
Agloragh,In the South End of the Parish,Barony of Dunmore-Bounded on the South-East and West by the Parish of Killererin and o the North by the Monument Park and Cool Park.
Please reply witht any info??
Thank you
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galwayreader
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The Birmingham family came from Birmingham city and arrived in Ireland with the norman invasion in 1269. The first famous Birmingham was Piers de Birmingham whose lineage can be traced in the peerage. The Birminghams settled in Galway and Kildare and Louth. The were known as Lord Louth and Baron of Athenry (Galway). The Birmingham family name is rare enough but there are a few families in Galway. The town of Dunmore 8 miles from Tuam was their last remaining stronghold and is where the family name fell into the use of "commoners" or in common usage as we would say. I have a little more info if you are interested.
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HODGKISS77
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Hi
Yes please! -I am most interested! Are you saying that The Birminghams derived from Birmingham City in England?
Thank you
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galwayreader
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Yes. Hello I hope that I can help a little.
Here goes
The name Birmingham seems to have come from England. The first mention of it is Beomra Birm is derived from Beorma (or Beornmund) — Beorma was probably a local Saxon tribal leader, 'ing' is derived from ingas meaning 'tribe of' or 'people of', and 'ham' is short for hamlet or "heim", village or homestead. Therefore 'Birmingham' roughly means "The home of the tribe or people of Beorma.
The Norman invasion of England ment that a lord was given the area around Birmingham and this name became the family name eg. Richard De Birmingham.
The first recorded Birmingham in Ireland was Piers De Birmingham. In Irish the name Birmingham is MacFheorais or son of Piers. The Birmingham's were granted lands in Louth, Kildare and Galway.
In Galway their strongholds were in Athenry and Dunmore where the remains of their castles still can be seen. This is the branch that I come from. The earliest mention of a Birmingham in Tuam is a bishop in the 1300's. From 1300 to 1800 the Birmingham family were quite powerful and owned lands in north Galway. One of the most famous was John Birmingham who discovered a crater on the moon which he named in honour of the family. They also had a vast estate in the east indies.
After this the family lost its power but a few Birmingham families are still in the area and are all spelled with an i.
I hope that this will help a little.
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galwayreader
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I forgot to say that there is an Arglora in Tuam just outside the town.
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HODGKISS77
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Do you know anything abt the place or know where i could find such information out about it?
Thank you again
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galwayreader
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It is just outside Tuam but is in the parish. You can check it up on google maps. It is a farming area. Have you any more details about the people that you are researching and I will see what I can find? I am a Birmingham but my family originally came from Dunmore although it is probably the same branch of the family.
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HODGKISS77
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Hi Again!
The only Information that i have on the people i am researching are the details i have already posted on this thread!
I know that my Great Grandmother ''Mary Birmingham'' was born in Tuam-Galway. Her Mother was Bridget Corles/Corless and her Father Was Peter Birmingham. The Family emmigrated to England in the late 1800's and settled there in a place called Farnworth In Lancashire.
I am trying to trace the next Generation back from Bridget & Peter but keep coming up against brick walls (Very Large Ones at that)! I have not long been researching this line.
Any help or Info would be very much appreciated, also, you never know-there is a possibility that you could be connected along the lines to my Birmingham lineage?
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galwayreader
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If you try the 1911 online census of ireland it lists a Julia Corless living in ahgloragh Levelly Co. Galway. This is the same aglora/argloragh as it is on the Tuam/Levally border. Could this person be a relative of your Bridget Corless? You can check it out online yourself. No Birminghams came up on the search so they may have been the last family in the townland. A few Birminghams come up in Tuam but it is difficult to link them without church records which i might be able to look into.
If nothing else the online census is a bit of fun to look at.
I'll pass anything else i find on. This has given me a bit of motivation to get at my own family tree again.
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JoyKM
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You could try contacting the Athenry Heritage Centre - http://www.athenryheritagecentre.com/contact.htm.
I read about a Bermingham family there when I visited Galway recently.
e.mail info[at]athenryheritagecentre.com
CSP Manager: Alan Burgess
Address:
Athenry Arts & Heritage Centre
The Square
Athenry
Co. Galway
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