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Topic: Agnes McCearney..a mystery (Read 460 times)
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adicol
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I am trying to find records, and struggling on Agnes McCearney.
In 1891 she was living in Halifax, West Yorkshire, England with my g grandfather John Martin.
They married in 1888 in Halifax, and her place of birth on census was Scotland.
Have not found anything so far that is of help; even googling McCearney only brings up a small amount of Irish links.
Incidentally John Martin was Irish!
Can anyone find anything out on her or the McCearney surname please??
Thanks
Colleen
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DUR; Stephenson, Wray, Collier, Lowther,Rothery
GLA; Jones, Allen, Holland, Nicholas,George,Lewis
ESS; Davey
W.Yorks; Martin, Hodgson, Tyler,Harrold
LAN; Dodd, Constable, Brinkley
Guernsey; Le Riche
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avm228
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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What does the marriage certificate say about the name and occupation of Agnes' father?
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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luckydog
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Have you tried different spellings of the surname . I have Kearneys in my family and that is often spelt Cairney in Scotland and both of those might be prefixed with a Mac . The recorders often got name spellings wrong , writing it down as they heard it pronounced .
Mike
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adicol
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Hi Anna and Mike,
I haven't got the marriage cert yet, found there marriage on the free bmd.
I haven't thought to look for all the different spellings on the internet, but on all searches I have done on censuses etc, have looked for soundex etc.
Think I am best just ordering the cert...it seems odd though that she lived in Halifax at least 20 years, and I can only find the marriage under her maiden name and no record of any others McCearneys.
I would have assumed that when she married some of her family where with her in Halifax.
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DUR; Stephenson, Wray, Collier, Lowther,Rothery
GLA; Jones, Allen, Holland, Nicholas,George,Lewis
ESS; Davey
W.Yorks; Martin, Hodgson, Tyler,Harrold
LAN; Dodd, Constable, Brinkley
Guernsey; Le Riche
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avm228
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How do you know that McCearney was her maiden name, as opposed to the name in which she married John? She was 36 in the 1891 census, 46 in the 1901 census, giving an approx age of 33 at the date of the marriage to John. Are you sure she hadn't been married before? (I was wondering whether you had established that it was a maiden name from a child's birth certificate, but the couple don't have children with them in either the 1891 or the 1901 census...)
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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adicol
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Hi Anna,
You have just confirmed why genealogy, lack of sleep and housework don't mix, because that never even occured to me.
Problem is, I searched all records for a McCearney marriage or any record other than hers and no others came up...back to the drawing board!
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Colleen
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GLA; Jones, Allen, Holland, Nicholas,George,Lewis
ESS; Davey
W.Yorks; Martin, Hodgson, Tyler,Harrold
LAN; Dodd, Constable, Brinkley
Guernsey; Le Riche
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avm228
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I wouldn't get too hung up on the McCearney spelling of the name - it could easily have been rendered McCarney, McCartney etc. And any previous marriage of Agnes could have taken place in Scotland, Ireland or elsewhere.
I do think that in order to progress with Agnes you'll need that 1888 marriage certificate!
Anna 
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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sancti
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She may have been born 1854 and catholic so her birth won't show up on the OPR's
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adicol
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Thanks for your help everyone...cert is on my list of many I need lol.
Sadly I have had to restrict myself to 1 per week and have sent off for one already this week!
Regards
Colleen
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LAN; Dodd, Constable, Brinkley
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JAP
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I guess that Agnes is too young for Colleen's Agnes.
But it's interesting to see how the name varied. From batch C115591 in the IGI, those children are variously recorded as MCKERNON (Agnes, James and Jane plus a Margaret who presumably did not survive), MCKEARNIE (Elizabeth, John and Ellen), and MCCEARN (an earlier Ellen who presumably did not survive).
Colleen, why do you say that she lived in Halifax for 20 years? Do you mean before or after her marriage? And why assume some of her family would have been with her when she married - after all, she was ca 33 (from age of 36 in 1891 and 46 in 1901 i.e. born ca 1855).
There is an Agnes MCCARNEY of the right age in the 1861 Scotland census.
MCCARNEY family at Bridge Inn, Kilmaurs, Ayshire
John Head 38 b Ireland Coal Miner; Charlette 30 b Ireland; Elizabeth 9, Agnes 7, Mary 5 - all born Govan, Lanarkshire; Anne 1 b Kilmaurs.
The marriage of John and Charlotte in Gorbals in 1849 is in the IGI.
As is Mary's birth in 1855 (starting date of statutory registration) and births of subsequent children.
And an Agnes MCCARNEY of the right age in the 1871 England census.
Agnes MCCARNEY 17, born Scotland, Servant in a CHALLENOR household in St Helens, Lancashire.
But unfortunately it does seem that the only way forward is to get the marriage certificate.
JAP
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