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hamiltonhunt
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Family in Armagh, Antrim, Tyrone
« on: Monday 16 February 09 04:21 UTC (UK) »

Looking for family connections.

John HAMILTON, School Master,
Born: c1837, Place Unknown,
Married:  1862, Milford, Kennedies, Armagh, Ireland
Died: 1925, Milford, Kennedies, Armagh, Ireland (TBC)
Father: David HAMILTON, Farmer

Spouse: Elizabeth M LIVINGSTON(e), School Mistress, Post Office
Born: c1835, Place Unknown
Died: 19 Dec 1927, Milford, Kennedies, Armagh, Ireland (TBC)
Father: Thomas LIVINGSTON, School Master

David L HAMILTON
Born: 1864 at Milford, Kennedies, Armagh, Ireland
Lived: Armagh, Dublin, Scotland, London
Died: 1945 at Cambridgeshire, England
Spouses: Helen I BAGGE, Norah BAGNALL, Gertrude E MARSHALL

Boy HAMILTON
Born: 1866 at Kennedies, Armagh, reland
Died: Possibly Stillborn?

John G HAMILTON
Born: 1867 at Armagh, Armagh, Ireland
Lived: Armagh, Antrim, London, Tyrone
Died: 1925 at Dromore, Tyrone, Ireland
Spouse: Sarah/Sai M NICHOLSON

Boy HAMILTON
Born: 1869 at Milford, Kennedies, Armagh, Ireland
Died: Possibly Stillborn?

William HAMILTON
Born: 1870 at Milford, Kennedies, Armagh, Ireland
Lived: Armagh, Straits Settlements, Wales, Sussex
Died: 1953 at Brighton, Sussex, England
Spouse: Edith CR McINTYRE

Catherine A HAMILTON
Born: 1872 at Kennedies, Armagh, Ireland
Died: 1962
Spouse: William J TODD

Elizabeth D HAMILTON
Born: 1873 at Milford, Kennedies, Armagh, Ireland
Died: 1916 at Killylea, Tynan, Armagh, Ireland
Spouse: George R SMITH

Thomas JC HAMILTON
Born: 1875 at Kennedies, Armagh, Ireland
Died: 1953 at Belfast, Antrim, Ireland
Spouse: Ethel A CARDWELL

Samuel HAMILTON
Born: 1877 at Milford, Kennedies, Armagh, Ireland
Lived: Armagh, Georgia, USA
Died: Unknown

Surnames: Hamilton, Bagge, Bagnall, Marshall, Nicholson, McIntyre, Todd, Smith, Cardwell
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ARMSTRONG: Ireland, Ontario, Minnesota, Montana, British Columbia   BUCKLEY:  Ireland, Co Cork, Ontario   DONOVAN: Ireland, England   DOOLEY: Ireland   DOWNEY: Ireland   HAMILTON: Co Armagh, Co Tyrone, Penang, Straits Settlements, Somerset, Monmouthshire, Ontario, British Columbia   MACKEY: Ireland, Ontario, British Columbia, Washington, Oregon   McINTYRE: Penang, Straits Settlements, Middlesex   SAWYER: Norfolk, Somerset, Gloucester, Canada
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Re: Family in Armagh, Antrim, Tyrone
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 February 09 13:42 UTC (UK) »

hamiltonhunt,
What was Thomas Livingston's occupation?  It should be on Elizabeth's marriage cert.  RosemaryJoan
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hamiltonhunt
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Re: Family in Armagh, Antrim, Tyrone
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 February 09 21:16 UTC (UK) »

He was a school master.
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ARMSTRONG: Ireland, Ontario, Minnesota, Montana, British Columbia   BUCKLEY:  Ireland, Co Cork, Ontario   DONOVAN: Ireland, England   DOOLEY: Ireland   DOWNEY: Ireland   HAMILTON: Co Armagh, Co Tyrone, Penang, Straits Settlements, Somerset, Monmouthshire, Ontario, British Columbia   MACKEY: Ireland, Ontario, British Columbia, Washington, Oregon   McINTYRE: Penang, Straits Settlements, Middlesex   SAWYER: Norfolk, Somerset, Gloucester, Canada
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Re: Family in Armagh, Antrim, Tyrone
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 February 09 22:33 UTC (UK) »

Elizabeth Mary LIVINGSTONE may have had a brother or uncle, John George LIVINGSTONE. He and a Jane ECCLES were witnesses at John and Eliza Mary's wedding in Armagh.

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ARMSTRONG: Ireland, Ontario, Minnesota, Montana, British Columbia   BUCKLEY:  Ireland, Co Cork, Ontario   DONOVAN: Ireland, England   DOOLEY: Ireland   DOWNEY: Ireland   HAMILTON: Co Armagh, Co Tyrone, Penang, Straits Settlements, Somerset, Monmouthshire, Ontario, British Columbia   MACKEY: Ireland, Ontario, British Columbia, Washington, Oregon   McINTYRE: Penang, Straits Settlements, Middlesex   SAWYER: Norfolk, Somerset, Gloucester, Canada
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Re: Family in Armagh, Antrim, Tyrone
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 February 09 11:28 UTC (UK) »

In the hope that Thomas might still have been alive when Griffiths Valuation was taken, I have looked at all the Thomas's I could find
Thomas Livingston, Thomas Street,Belfast was a labourer
Thomas Livingston, Harry Street, Dublin - ?
Thomas, Dunnamona, Donacey, Co. Tyrone - ?
Thomas Livingston Hacknahay, Seagoe - ?
Thomas Levingston, Ballydugan, Tullylish, probably a weaver or farmer (mine were)
I know it's clutching at straws, but I suppose you have the 1901 census for Elizabeth Mary and John, since they stayed in the same place all their married lives.  They would have declared their place of birth in the census.
Still thinking.
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Re: Family in Armagh, Antrim, Tyrone
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 February 09 12:06 UTC (UK) »

I know it's clutching at straws, but I suppose you have the 1901 census for Elizabeth Mary and John, since they stayed in the same place all their married lives.  They would have declared their place of birth in the census.
1901 census only lists county of birth if born in Ireland.
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Re: Family in Armagh, Antrim, Tyrone
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 February 09 18:45 UTC (UK) »

I didn't think the 1901 census was available. If it is, could you point me in the right direction.

Thanks
J
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ARMSTRONG: Ireland, Ontario, Minnesota, Montana, British Columbia   BUCKLEY:  Ireland, Co Cork, Ontario   DONOVAN: Ireland, England   DOOLEY: Ireland   DOWNEY: Ireland   HAMILTON: Co Armagh, Co Tyrone, Penang, Straits Settlements, Somerset, Monmouthshire, Ontario, British Columbia   MACKEY: Ireland, Ontario, British Columbia, Washington, Oregon   McINTYRE: Penang, Straits Settlements, Middlesex   SAWYER: Norfolk, Somerset, Gloucester, Canada
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Re: Family in Armagh, Antrim, Tyrone
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 February 09 18:50 UTC (UK) »

1901 is eventually going to be added to National Archives, Dublin website after all 1911 is done (could be a while). In the meantime the 1901 census is available at certain places like PRONI, some local studies library collections (Ballymena Library have Co. Derry and Co. Antrim) or to order from your local LDS library.
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Re: Family in Armagh, Antrim, Tyrone
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 17 February 09 19:09 UTC (UK) »

I searched  for Lisnadill in the LDS Library and have come up with 5 films listed for 1901, do you know if there is any way to determine which film might cover Milford?

1901 DED 5/2-16, 17C, 18-22  808502 item 2
1901 DED 10/4-6,  808504 item 3
1901 DED 15/1-12,  808506 item 2
1901 DED 22/10-13,  808509
1901 DED 27/12-14,  808513

Also, can you tell me what the DED and the other numbers mean? I asked about DED at the FHC last time I was there and they didn't know.
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ARMSTRONG: Ireland, Ontario, Minnesota, Montana, British Columbia   BUCKLEY:  Ireland, Co Cork, Ontario   DONOVAN: Ireland, England   DOOLEY: Ireland   DOWNEY: Ireland   HAMILTON: Co Armagh, Co Tyrone, Penang, Straits Settlements, Somerset, Monmouthshire, Ontario, British Columbia   MACKEY: Ireland, Ontario, British Columbia, Washington, Oregon   McINTYRE: Penang, Straits Settlements, Middlesex   SAWYER: Norfolk, Somerset, Gloucester, Canada
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Re: Family in Armagh, Antrim, Tyrone
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 17 February 09 20:27 UTC (UK) »

Just found that Eliza Mary signed the Ulster Covenant in 1912.
www.proni.gov.uk
got to Ulster Covenant
click on search the Covenant
put Eliza Mary Hamilton in the name boxes
in the address box put
Milford Armagh
You can view her actual signature
Sorry, I can't help with the DED but I am sure some kind soul will.
PRONI will send you a photocopy of the 1901 census
Probably the address Milford,Kennedies,Armagh would find them.
Just send them an email and they will eventually reply.  RosemaryJoan
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Re: Family in Armagh, Antrim, Tyrone
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 17 February 09 20:31 UTC (UK) »

D.E.D. = District Electoral Division

PRONI has help sheet to explain about 1901 census here:
www.proni.gov.uk/your_family_tree_series_-_02_-_1901_census.pdf
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Re: Family in Armagh, Antrim, Tyrone
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 17 February 09 20:45 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Rosemary Joan

Isn't it exciting to see their actual signatures! I have found several family member's signatures on the Declaration and Covenant.

Thanks again
J
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ARMSTRONG: Ireland, Ontario, Minnesota, Montana, British Columbia   BUCKLEY:  Ireland, Co Cork, Ontario   DONOVAN: Ireland, England   DOOLEY: Ireland   DOWNEY: Ireland   HAMILTON: Co Armagh, Co Tyrone, Penang, Straits Settlements, Somerset, Monmouthshire, Ontario, British Columbia   MACKEY: Ireland, Ontario, British Columbia, Washington, Oregon   McINTYRE: Penang, Straits Settlements, Middlesex   SAWYER: Norfolk, Somerset, Gloucester, Canada
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Re: Family in Armagh, Antrim, Tyrone
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 18 February 09 10:11 UTC (UK) »

Yes, it's really spooky to see the signature of relations long dead and who you never met.
We have my husband's grandfather's original copy of the Covenant signed by him.  It's old and brown and printed on thick parchment.
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Re: Family in Armagh, Antrim, Tyrone
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 23:27 UTC (UK) »

Can anyone help determine which of the following LDS films I should order in for Milford, (Kennedies) Lisnadill? The PRONI census PDF didn't help. If I remember correctly, i need to refer to a booklet onsite, which I can't since i am in  Canada.

I did send a request to PRONI in February but have not heard anything yet.

Thanks
J


Lisnadill Films listed from earlier posting:

1901 DED 5/2-16, 17C, 18-22  808502 item 2
1901 DED 10/4-6,  808504 item 3
1901 DED 15/1-12,  808506 item 2
1901 DED 22/10-13,  808509
1901 DED 27/12-14,  808513
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ARMSTRONG: Ireland, Ontario, Minnesota, Montana, British Columbia   BUCKLEY:  Ireland, Co Cork, Ontario   DONOVAN: Ireland, England   DOOLEY: Ireland   DOWNEY: Ireland   HAMILTON: Co Armagh, Co Tyrone, Penang, Straits Settlements, Somerset, Monmouthshire, Ontario, British Columbia   MACKEY: Ireland, Ontario, British Columbia, Washington, Oregon   McINTYRE: Penang, Straits Settlements, Middlesex   SAWYER: Norfolk, Somerset, Gloucester, Canada
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Re: Family in Armagh, Antrim, Tyrone
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 18:07 UTC (UK) »

Hello Hamiltonhunt,
I visited the Irish & Local Studies library today in Armagh and i have found your relatives on the 1901 Census of Ireland under Milford. There were only 6 households under Kennedies but none of them Hamilton. However there was 101 households in Milford and one of them was your relations but only two of their children were recorded. The others must have left home by this date. The writing is difficult to decipher but the details on the form were as follow:-

No. on Form B _25__ Form completed 31st March 1901

John Hamilton, Head of House, Presbyterian, Age 63 ?65, School Teacher, Married, Born County Tyrone.

Eliza Mary Hamilton, Wife, Presbyterian, Age 64, Housekeeper, married, Born County Donegal.

William Hamilton, Son, Presbyterian, Age 30, School Teacher, Married, Born County Armagh.

Elizabeth D Hamilton, Presbyterian, Daughter, Age 27, School Teacher, Not married, Born County Armagh.

Minnie ? Shields, Servant, Roman Catholic, Age ?24, General Servant Domestic, Not married, Born County Armagh.     

If you have any further queries perhaps you could contact the library i mentioned above. You can email them as follow

IrishandLocalStudies.SELB[at]librariesni.org.uk

They mentioned having a catalogue of National Schools in Ireland. Perhaps you could get further information about your family from this if the dates correspond. Also if you would like the 1901 Census print out of your relatives you could send me your postal address via a PM (Private Message) and i will send it to you.
Meantime happy family tree hunting.

Norh (In Armagh)

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