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lyndyloo6
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Monumental Sculpter, 1800's
« on: Monday 16 February 09 20:29 UTC (UK) »

Hi Folkes,
Can anyone connect to William Gunn Campbell c1821, married to Elizabeth monro, c1823.  William was a monumental Sculpter.  They had an extensive family.  The line I am following is their daughter Janet Traill Sinclair Campbell who was a photographer and came to edinburgh c1900.  Be grateful for any info other than the census reports from 1871 - 1901.  Janet married Willliam Sharpe Robertson in 1904 and was widowed in 1910.  She never married again and died in 1953 in Edinburgh.  She had at least 2 sons, William Adam Campbell Robertson, 1909 and another son with the name Sinclair included.
Thank you for any information.

Kind regards,Lynda

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Re: Monumental Sculpter, 1800's
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 March 09 13:07 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lynda

Read your message and your reference to a photogarpher with middle names of Sinclair and Traill strikes me as something of a coincidence when compared with my information.

Some time ago, I traced my forebears to a GGGGrandfather named James Sinclair who was a Mason and lived at Peathill, Pitsligo in Aberdeenshire. I have a monumental inscription from his grave where he is buried with his Wife Margaret Ingram. James Sinclair died 18 March 1850 aged 84.
Now the coincidence! The gravestone inscription states that the stone was 'erected by James Gordon, Photographer, Fraserburgh' and the inscription continues with further information about Margaret Ingram and then concludes: 'MARY TRAIL wife of above JAMES GORDON d. 24 Mar. 1899 aged 71; said JAMES GORDON d. Sandhaven 27 Dec. 1914 aged 87'.

Is it possible that your 'photographer' could be a daughter or granddaughter of James Gordon of Fraserburgh?

If you require any further information, please let me know.
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lyndyloo6
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Re: Monumental Sculpter, 1800's
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 March 09 16:44 UTC (UK) »

Hi Frankin,

Thank you for this.  I think possibly a grandaughter.  I have not taken this line very far back and only started a few weeks ago.  I know for definate who her parents are, but not got any further back than this.  I shall have a look tonight after dinner and get back to you.  Many thanks,
Lynda
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Gibb, Allan, Ross, Stewart,McRobb, Aberdeenshire,
Robertson, McKay, Blyth, McHale, Begg, McCann, McCabe, Horan,  Edinburgh.
McGoohan, Conway, Kelly, Meechan, Edinburgh, Ireland
Goodfellow, Hodgson, Birtley,Chester le Street Durham.
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lyndyloo6
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Re: Monumental Sculpter, 1800's
« Reply #3 on: Monday 09 March 09 17:03 UTC (UK) »

The info that I have is that William Gunn Campbell married Elizabeth Munro, does any of this seem familiar to you?

name: Janet T S Campbell
Age: 2 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Thurso, Caithness
Registration Number: 41
Registration district: Thurso
Civil Parish: Thurso
Town: Thurso
County: Caithness
Address: Barrock Street
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 153
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1871_8
Household Members: Name Age
William Campbell 40
Elizabeth Campbell 39
Adam Campbell 14
John Campbell 12
Margaret Campbell 10
William Campbell 8
Sinclair Campbell 6
Jessie Campbell 4
Elizabeth Campbell 2
Janet T S Campbell 2 Mo

all born Thurso except Adam who was born Bothwell Lanarkshire

1881 census

Name: Janet Campbell
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: William G
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Thurso, Caith
Registration Number: 41
Registration district: Thurso
Civil Parish: Thurso
County: Caithness
Address: Sinclair St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 293
Line: 1
Roll: cssct1881a_103236
Household Members: Name Age
William G Campbell 50
Elizabeth Campbell 49
John Campbell 22
William Campbell 18
Sinclair Campbell 16
Jessie Campbell 14
Elizabeth Campbell 12
Janet Campbell 10
Catherine Campbell 8

1891 census

Name: Janet Campbell
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relationship: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Thurso, Caithness
Registration Number: 41
Registration district: Thurso
Civil Parish: Thurso
County: Caithness
Address: Sinclair St
Occupation: Assistant Photographer
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 300
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1891_10
Household Members: Name Age
William Campbell 28
Elizabeth Campbell 21
Janet Campbell 19
Andrew Campbell 15
Ada Munro 50

1901 census

Name: Janet T S Campbell
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Thurso, Caithnessshire
Registration Number: 685/5
Registration district: Newington
Civil Parish: Edinburgh Newington
County: Midlothian
Address: 25 Blackwood Cres
Occupation: Photographer
ED: 63
Household schedule number: 69
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1901_387
Household Members: Name Age
James F Watson 69
Elizabeth Watson 65
Mary Watson 37
Helen Watson 33
Allan D Watson 29
William Watson 24
Jessie C H Watson 21
Janet T S Campbell 26
Kate M Campbell 25

Regards,
Lynda



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Gibb, Allan, Ross, Stewart,McRobb, Aberdeenshire,
Robertson, McKay, Blyth, McHale, Begg, McCann, McCabe, Horan,  Edinburgh.
McGoohan, Conway, Kelly, Meechan, Edinburgh, Ireland
Goodfellow, Hodgson, Birtley,Chester le Street Durham.
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McLaughlan, Michael, Edinburgh Ireland
MonicaLesl
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Re: Monumental Sculpter, 1800's
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 10 March 09 09:37 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lynda

Some one has a family tree for them on www.brianjester.us/tree3/individual.php?pid=I0053&ged=Family Tree Backup.GED  Looks to be following the line of sister Kate Munro Campbell.

Monica  Smiley
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Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
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Re: Monumental Sculpter, 1800's
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 10 March 09 09:43 UTC (UK) »

Not sure how much more info it may provide, but there is an entry in last Will & Testaments on SP:

William Gunn Campbell, 01/02/1882 - Mason, Sinclair Street, Thurso, County of Caithness, d. 11/11/1881 at Thurso aforesaid, intestate    at Wick Sheriff Court, SC14/40/11

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: Monumental Sculpter, 1800's
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 September 09 14:16 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lynda,

I have a connection (through my sister's husband) to William Gunn Campbell 1831-1881 and his wife Elizabeth Munro 1831-1889.

They were married in Edinburgh in 1854.

My brother-in-law is descended from their son Sinclair Campbell born in Thurso in 1864.

I knew from the Censuses that William Gunn Campbell was a described as a Mason or Hewer but I did not know he was a Monumental Sculptor. Can you tell me more about his work?

I have more information about the parents of both William Gunn Campbell and Elizabeth Munro which I would be happy to share if you have not got that yet.

Regards
Ian
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Re: Monumental Sculpter, 1800's
« Reply #7 on: Friday 25 September 09 14:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lynda,

I should clarify my posting yesterday when I said William Gunn Campbell and Elizabeth Munro married in Edinburgh in 1854.

In fact the banns were read in the Parish of Bower in Caithness which appears to have been her home parish while he was residing in Edinburgh. Scotlandspeople gives the date as 1/1/1854 because the entry is undated but it appears immediately after entries for November 1854 and reads:-

"William Campbell residing at 117 High Street Edinburgh and Elizabeth Monro residing at Barrock in this Parish were proclaimed in the Church of Bower in order to marriage on three separate Sabbaths and no objections offered."

There does seem to have been quite a bit of family movement between Thurso and Edinburgh and back again as revealed in the Censuses etc.

For example William Gunn Campbell's parents John Campbell and Margaret Gunn are in Rose Street Thurso in the 1841 Census and in Morrison's Close Edinburgh in the 1851 Census. However John Campbell died at Rose Street Thurso in 1858. In the 1861 Census his widow is a Lodging House Keeper at North Side 5 West Adam Street Edinburgh.

Ian
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