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keith57
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Hi,
I am trying to locate some photographs of a grocers shop in Red Lion Street, Redditch. Benjamin Baylis has a shop from the census in 1841 through until after the 1881 census. I have found his son Francis had a shop in the same street through the 1891 and 1901 census it could possibly be the same one.
Thanks Keith.
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Humphpaul
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Has anyone lost a Thomas Baylis who appears from nowhere in 1770 when he marries a Mary Ritson in Cumberland. He was a mariner and from then on the family stayed in the Maryport area and there are still traces of them there. There were no Baylis's in CUM before him.
Thomas was a g.g.grandfather of mine. My bit of the line moved to Liverpool and Baylis was used as a middle name for 3 generations after for some reason I cannot see. It was having an uncle William Baylis Paul that got me into F.H. in the first place.
Any suggestions appreiciated. Thanks Alan Williams
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Paul, Humphrey, Vaughan, Lewis, Williams, Parry, Jones, Fairclough, Howard, Allan, Baylis, Wright, Ritson.
Barmouth, Llangellinin, Liverpool, Maryport Cumberland, Port Glasgow, Nercwys (Nerquis), Mold, Gwysaney, Hope, Doddleston, Higher Kinnerton.
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keith57
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Hi Kells,
The Benjamin Bayliss i have is born about 1812 in Tardibigge and dies in 1888, he had a grocers shop in Red Lion street from about 1836 until his death when his son took it over until about 1904. I have not got Benjamin's parents so it is possible John was his father.
Keith
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Kells
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Hi Keith,
It is quite possible we are looking at the same Benjamin - the only info I have is that my Benjamin was baptised 31 Dec 1813 in Bromsgrove, which is only a few miles from Tardebigg I believe. I have no info on other Benjamin's, not sure there were others at that time in the area, so it is a likely match, especially as he is a grocer, not uncommon to follow the father's profession, and if he is from my family, he is the eldest son.
Did your Benjamin marry Hannah? I have found this family in the census living in Edgbaston & Birmingham, Warwickshire, children John, Jane, Ann & Alfred Berry, but I did not see a Francis?
If you think it might be a link let me know and I would be happy to share more research.
Kelly 
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Baylis MDX & WOR; Bartlett SOM; Bowyer CHS; Brant WAR; Bull STS & DBY; Carrick NI; Childs DOR; Diamond KEN; Dowling IR; Elford DOR; Elliott BKM; Farmer STS; Ginger BKM; Hennessey IR; Kirtland OXF & MDX; Lakin WAR/STS; Langley BRK; MacCarthy IR; Manwaring KEN; Miller SFK; Morgan MDX; Page SFK; Payne SAus; Payne WOR/WAR; Reardon IR; Robinson NI; Rose SRY; Smith ESX; Sullivan SAus; Taylor STS & DEV; Todd NI; Trend DEV; Webber BRK; Wetton DBY; Wood SSX; Woodings STS & DBY; Wrathall YKS.
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Yegvard
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Hi Folks,
Sorry to pour water on everything, there are BAYLIS(S), and variants all around here. Including a Benjamin BAYLIS, baptised in Studley, Warwickshire, just a few miles away, on the 6th September 1812 (IGI). Although in the 1871, aged 53, he does give Redditch as the parish of birth. There was also a birth in 1819 in Bromsgrove (IGI).
I don't know how well you know the Tardebigge/Redditch area but borders are a bit vague. Tardebigge isn't a village as such. It's just a place. Yes it has a church and a school, but the nearest hamlet is Tutnal. About a mile a way towards Bromsgrove is Finstall, which was in Stoke Prior parish, but in the Bromsgrove registration district. So trawl both St. Stephen's, Redditch, and St. Bartholmew's, Tardebigge registers.
Nobody has a Florence Elizabeth BAYLIS, born 1876, in Redditch do they?
Cheers
Mike
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HANDS, HANDES, HANNS, HANNES, HANNE, HANNON (Yardley to Bromsgrove)
MIL(L)WARD, COTTERIL, CLULEE, IZOD, HASSALL, TODD, STRATTON, JAKEMAN, JENNINGS, MOLE, ALLCOCK north Worcestershire
WATERS, Thurzo, Sutherland> Bishopswearmouth, Durham
GARDNER, Solihull; TOLLEY Birmingham, Warkickshire
HUMPHRIES, Meifod, Montgomeryshire>Bilston, Staffordshire> Manchester & Texas and Kansas, USA
JAKENS, BIRD, CRAPPER Bury, HIGGINBOTHAM, HORRIDGE, Lancashire
LEO, Galway/Tipperary, Ireland
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Humphpaul
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Dear Kells, thanks for the hint. I have a message on the CUM pages. I have traced all my Baylis related family in Liverpool but there were some Baylis's there already before mine got there in 1840 or so. There was a chemist and a milliner in the directories if I remember rightly.
The name Baylis did not continue in L'pool as it was my g.grandma who married a James Paul but Baylis was used as a middle name by the family for some sons and daughters for three generations at least. Bye Alan
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Paul, Humphrey, Vaughan, Lewis, Williams, Parry, Jones, Fairclough, Howard, Allan, Baylis, Wright, Ritson.
Barmouth, Llangellinin, Liverpool, Maryport Cumberland, Port Glasgow, Nercwys (Nerquis), Mold, Gwysaney, Hope, Doddleston, Higher Kinnerton.
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EBGB1950
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Hi Keith.
I believe that Benjamin Baylis was my 5 x great grandfather. His son, Francis eventually took over the grocer's shop in Red Lion Street. Francis was a carpenter by trade and his son, Francis Augustus, was my great grandfather. My grandfather, George Frederick, died in 1927, so I never met him. His son, Eric, born in 1914, was my father.
Benjamin's wife was Georgianna Angelina (maiden name Harrington) born in Devonport. I believe that Benjamin was born in September 1912 in Studley and his mother's name was Ann. That's as far back as I have been able to go as yet. If you manage to get a photo of the shop in Red Lion Street, please let me know. I'd also be interested to know how your friend Martyn is related to Benjamin.
Regards
Gary
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01Ivan
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I have the BAYLIS family tree from myself way back to John Baylis 1709 marr Elizabeth Chambers, 30 Dec 1731, she came from BIDFORD-ON-AVON, WARWICKSHIRE.
for anyone connected to Benjamin Bayliss b.1812 marr. Georgiana Angelina Orange Collins Harrington, yes they did have a shop in Red Lion Stree, Redditch, Worc., and Francis their son took over the shop when Benjamin died.
dau of Francis, (Florence Elizabeth Baylis) was my grandmother.
Anyone interested please contact.
Marlene
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EBGB1950
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Hi Marlene
Very interested to read your info regarding Benjamin Baylis and to see that you are descended from Francis's daughter, Florence. The only mention of Florence I've found is the 1880 Census record at Beoley Road and this gives her age as 24, but I can't see her mentioned in the 1871 Census record at Unicorn Hill, when she would supposedly be 14. I'd be particularly interested to know more about the Baylis family generations preceding Benjamin if you can let me have any more details.
Regards
Gary
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01Ivan
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Gary,
Have just written to you but seem to have lost it before I sent it so here goes again:- My grandmother Florence Hemming (Baylis) b.1876 Redditch, d.1966 Redditch, her father was George Frederick Baylis b.18th Apr 1858, Redditch,
I think he was born in Ipsley, m Amelia Mary Chandler, his father Francis b.5 Mar 1834 Redditch, m Elizabeth (1) Ann Newel (2) his father Benjamin b.1812 Redditch. d/20 Apr 1888, m Georgiana Angelina Orange Collins Harrington b.1816,d.17 Oct 1887, m.18 Feb.1833. his mother Ann Baylis b.22 May 1791, d. 20thJun 1819, St. Stephens, Redditch. her father Francis b.1754,d.20 Jan1820 St. Stephens, Redditch, m. 14 Oct 1771 Alcester. Sarah Owen, Alcester. his father John b.1709, m. Elizabeth Chambers Bidford-on-Avon, on 30 Dec 1731.
Hop this is of use and if you come across anything else please let me know as this is as far as I have had time to get to at the moment due to other commitments.
Please let me know how this fits in with yours I have got most of this Baylis tree and there are a lot of people still about.
Marlene
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