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Topic: abraham bond and elizabeth needham marriage 1796 (Read 395 times)
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tony bond
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hi i have found an ancestor of mine abraham bond who married a lady called elizabeth needham abraham was from darley dale. and so was elizabeth needham they married on 14/3/1796 in duffield. but i cant find any records of any children born to them can anybody help please. most gratefull.tony bond
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spendlove
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Hi Tony The marriage between Abraham Bond & Elizabeth Needham at Duffield, In the Phillimore Transcripts it states that both were of Duffield Parish.
Perhaps you could supply additional information, how do you know this is your Abraham Bond?
Regrds Spendlove.
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tony bond
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hi thanks for showing interest my ancestors ive managed to trace back to issac bond born in alfreton derbyshire 26th aprill 1803 baptized. at belper wesleyan methodist church on the lds website their is an issac bond born to abraham bond their is no wifes name given. i thought it possible that this might be elizabeth needhams husband abraham as the father. but as i have no records of the children born to abraham and elizabeth needham. ill tellyou the other abraham bonds ive found around crich and darley dale that might be a match. i found abraham bond married hannah swain 25/aug /1783 married in crich. abraham bond and sarah bennet married crich 6/4/1785. plus abraham and elizabeth needham if i could find the births of elizabeths kids maybe issac bond born 1803 was abraham and elizabeths needhams child do you have any records of the bond familly children in duffield. thanks tony bond.
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bellbird
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tO SPENDLOVE Hi I'm not attached to the abovenamed that i know of but i am trying to trace our branch of the Bond Family. George is the one I'm after and his parents. I wondering if you have access to records in the Heanor area that would help me. All i can find belong to Clubs which require membership it appears and being in NZ it wouldn't be of alot of help for me to belong. He was born in 1792 at Heanor, married a Mary Bell (born 29/3/1796, parents George and Mary Bell) at Heanor on 24/7/1817. They had 3 children, the first new to me, Martha born 18/10/1817 christened 25/11/1817 Belper Wesleyan Methodist. Andrew (my great grandfather) born 23/4/1820 Bilston Staff died 20/11/1876 Dudley Had two wives, the second my great grandmother who when widowed came out to NZ with her youngest living son, my grandfather, her other son still living was already here. George born 13/8/1825 Pentrich Derby. Andrew and his father George were both miners. George Jnr a bricklayer spent sometime in Staffordshire Jail 1851 census says but can't find why so most likely was a minor offence. A cousin found the marriage details for George Senior but not the church the marriage took place in at Heanor. Details she had were vicar John Thompson, witnesses Michael Hardy and Betty Eyres. Mary was widowed and appears that she married a James Sanderford and lived with him taking Andrew and George Jnr with her, they had a son James. My request for info about George Snr and Mary (Bell) their wedding etc is because I haven't been able to confirm the authenticity of the info. Also George's birth and his parents names. If you are able to help or can tell me where i can look from the other side of the world I would be very grateful. BELLBIRD
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spendlove
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Hi Bellbird,
The only think I can give information about is that a John Thompson, was vicar at St. Lawrence Parish Church at Heanor from 1788-1821 - so assume church was St. Lawrence Heanor http://www.heanorhistory.org.uk/heanor_vicars.htm
Not doubting your research, but have you proof that George Bond = Mary Bell, actually had Bpt in Bilston Staffs an Andrew Bond 1820 - IGI provides no maiden name for Mother. Is it not strange, that moving from Staffs, having had one son Bpt in Staffs the next in 1825 is Bpt Derbys but they are back in Staffs in 1841? Not impossible but what proof do you have?
The same applies to the Bpt in Belper for Martha in 1817 How do you know it is actually George Bond & Mary Bell who are the parents and not another George Bond & Mary?? You must also remember, that not all church records are on the IGI. When and where did George Bond husband of Mary die? His entry in a Church Burial Register may give more clues.
The only think I can suggest is that you contact the Church of Latterday Saints in Hamilton NZ, to see if you can order films of the Parish Register for the various churches in which you are interested in the hope you can discover more details.
Hope this helps a little. Spendlove
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bellbird
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Morning Tony from NZ I have been interested to read your queries re abraham Bond. I am also looking for Bonds in Alfreton Area, mine is George and Mary, it appears he died there and Mary remarried there, have had one suggestion for his death but looks as if it could have been
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tony bond
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when did your george bond die and were abouts did they live i have a record of a george bond who died in alfreton ill look through my files for you bye tony bond .
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spendlove
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Hi Tony/Bellbird,
Think you have the wrong impression. I did send you a personal message on 4th March, expressing my concerns that you had the correct George Bond, this mainly because most of the information posted on the IGI is patron submitted with no evidence of where the info has come from, but perhaps you have info from the ACTUAL REGISTERS!
I have no connection to this family, and the only way for anyone to sort this out is to look at actual parish registers as these are not on the IGI. Even in England it would mean someone spending hours going to the County Record Office and searching the registers.
It is possible for you to order the films of the registers via the Latterday Saints in Hamilton N Z.
Sorry I know this is of no help at all. Regards Spendlove
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