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Kells
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Bowyer of Macclesfield
« on: Wednesday 18 February 09 23:10 UTC (UK) »
I am interested in tracing the origins of William Bowyer born c1790 in Cheshire. He gives his birthplace as "Chester Sutton" in the 1851 census (where is this exactly?), I have yet to find him in the 1841 census but know the family was in Macclesfield. He was a tea dealer and grocer.
His first marriage was in 1815 in Aston Juxta Birmingham to Mary Brant (she died in 1830) - children were Mary Brant Bowyer 1816, William Broadhurst Bowyer 1817, Charles Brant Bowyer 1820, William Lakin Bowyer 1825, Caroline Lakin Bowyer 1825, Ann Bowyer 1827, Jane Bowyer 1829, and Elizabeth Bowyer c1830.
William's second marriage was in 1835 to Eliza Lowe. Children were: Eliza Lowe Bowyer 1836, Frederick Bowyer 1837, Augusta Bowyer c1845, Edward J. Bowyer c1851, George Edward Bowyer before 1851, Harriet Bowyer and John James Bowyer.

There is only one match in the IGI to William Bowyer born in Cheshire in this time and it is in 1788 in Weaverham, some distance from Macclesfield. Family lore says he was the son of Sir Richard Bowyer but there is no proof of this man even existing!

Can anyone help?
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: Bowyer of Macclesfield
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 February 09 23:44 UTC (UK) »
Hello Kells,

The 1851 birthplace is Sutton, Chester just means Cheshire.  There are a few Suttons in Cheshire, one near Middlewich, one near Runcorn, Great Sutton, Guilden Sutton, and Little Sutton, but maybe it's the one near Macclesfield
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/sutton1.html

There's this 1841 entry
HO107/132/3 Folio 22 Page 38
Mill Street, Prestbury, Macclesfield
BOWYER
William 40  Grocer
Eliza 30 
Caroline 15
Jane 12
William 15
Eliza 5 
Frederick 3
Francis 1
Samuel THOMPSTONE  15 Grocer Apprentice
Samuel DOWNES 15                "      "
Ellen SANDBACH 20 Female Servant
all born Cheshire

Barbara  Smiley
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Kells
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Re: Bowyer of Macclesfield
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 February 09 23:55 UTC (UK) »
Wow thanks for that! I guess it must be the one near Macclesfield, as he lived there so long. I don't know how I missed the 1841 entry! Thanks so much  Smiley
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: Bowyer of Macclesfield
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 February 09 00:33 UTC (UK) »
You're welcome  Smiley

Have you tried the free website http://search.labs.familysearch.org ?

click on Europe on the map that appears, then you'll see the Cheshire records

There's a baptism on there for William Bower, 30 Jan 1791 Christ Church Macclesfield - parents Solomon Bower and Elizabeth

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Kells
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Re: Bowyer of Macclesfield
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 February 09 01:13 UTC (UK) »
Thank you!

I'm surprised I've not seen that record for William before. I use the IGI on familysearch but it never gave a match to William in 1791, and Christ Church happens to be the church where all his children were baptised. Could be a possibility! I'll search it further.

Thanks again  Smiley
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: Bowyer of Macclesfield
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 19 February 09 01:23 UTC (UK) »
It's a fairly new IGI pilot site, so you may not have been used it before.  The Cheshire section is indexed, so hope you find your family

Kind regards
Barbara
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Kells
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Re: Bowyer of Macclesfield
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 19 February 09 02:16 UTC (UK) »
I got on the pilot site but it's not working properly, I installed the Adobe Flash Player 10 it wanted but no luck  Angry Never mind, must be a computer problem! Thanks again, I'll persist!
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: Bowyer of Macclesfield
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 19 February 09 09:25 UTC (UK) »
It was down for maintenance yesterday, but appears to be working fine today, good luck,
Barbara
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Kells
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Re: Bowyer of Macclesfield
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 February 09 09:52 UTC (UK) »
I must be unlucky - I even went to the library to use their internet and it wouldn't work there either  Huh
Maybe I'll have another go tomorrow. I'd like to see more of those records and find out who the other children of Solomon and Elizabeth were and maybe find more Macclesfield families.
Thanks!
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: Bowyer of Macclesfield
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 19 February 09 10:15 UTC (UK) »
Ok, here are the other two baptisms I found with parents Solomon Bow(y)er and Elizabeth

Christ Church Macclesfield
Sarah BOWYER 21st October 1787    Solomon & Eliz BOWYER
James BOYER   13th March  1798      Solomon & Eliz BOYER

Hope you can get onto the site, as you can view the images for these

Haven't found a marriage for them yet though

Barbara
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Kells
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Re: Bowyer of Macclesfield
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 19 February 09 10:38 UTC (UK) »
Thank you thank you! I am overwhelmed with the response! You have been so kind, thanks for helping me. I wasn't sure if I'd find anything else or not so it must be worth a look at that page.

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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: Bowyer of Macclesfield
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 19 February 09 11:11 UTC (UK) »
I looked at one baptism image, as it was a bit slow to load, the only other information on that was that Solomon was 'of Macclesfield'  Roll Eyes

Have pm'd you
Barbara
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: Bowyer of Macclesfield
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 19 February 09 11:43 UTC (UK) »
Have just found Samuel's burial:

26th Sept 1825 aged 63  Christ Church, Macclesfield

(not sure if this is your William's father, of course!)

Going back to your initial thoughts about Sir Richard, I also found a marriage for Richard Bowyer to Anne Neeld, 1714, Weaverham, Cheshire  - but too early to be William's father Smiley

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Census and bmd information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Lincs & Yorks - SIVILLS PREDGEN    Norfolk - EBBS WHITEROD ZIPFELL       Sweden - JÖNSSON CRONBERG ANDERSSON      Yorks - SPENCE HIDE HIRD      Durham - DALKIN SELBY RENWICK
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