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Hhodgetts
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Hi, I am hoping that someone here will be able to help me work out where one of my family was born.
I have found my Thomas Ashley and his wife (unknown maiden name) living at Geddington in Northamptonshire. Thomas was born locally in 1778 or there abouts and his wife...... well, born 1777, but I cannot for the life of me work out what the census village or town name is for her birthplace. I have looked on a large scale map of the area and I cannot see anything that looks vaguely like Winsley or some other similar combination.
Anyone out there with better eyes or local knowledge than me?
I have underlined the word I am trying to identify in red.
Thanks in advance for any help. By the way, the document no. is HO107 piece 1477 folio 482 pg 9.
Philip
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Northumberland; Johnson, Johnston, Dodds, Rutherford, Gray, Kennedy, Wilson, Sanderson, Davidson and other Border Marauders as they are discovered on this journey.
Berkshire; Knight, Bristor, Sharpe, Sharp, Ashley.
Suffolk / Essex; Perce, Pearce, Pearse, Pierce, Hayes.
Midlands; Hodgetts, Parker, Easthope.
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Gadget
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Hi
I think it's starts with a C - and is Cransley which is near Kettering
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lizdb
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Looks like Cransley to me too
(and I thought that before reading gadget's post!)
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Hhodgetts
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Thanks for the replies. I can see Cransley on my map. It is not at all far away from Geddington.
Thanks for your help
Philip
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Northumberland; Johnson, Johnston, Dodds, Rutherford, Gray, Kennedy, Wilson, Sanderson, Davidson and other Border Marauders as they are discovered on this journey.
Berkshire; Knight, Bristor, Sharpe, Sharp, Ashley.
Suffolk / Essex; Perce, Pearce, Pearse, Pierce, Hayes.
Midlands; Hodgetts, Parker, Easthope.
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seahall
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Also although late a possible marriage.
From the N.M.I.
Kettering Parish Church BT's
13 Oct 1807
Thos ASHLEY of Geddington bach carpenter to Ann BAINS otp spin
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seahall
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Hi again Philip 
Thanks for the P.M. as I mentioned putting other information here also.
These are the marriages in the time period at Weekley/Geddington/Kettering
Weekley Parish Church (next village to Geddington)
27 Jan 1790 By License
Edward ASHLEY of Geddington, widower & carpenter to Elizabeth HARLEY otp, widow
Geddington Parish Church
29 Dec 1789 Jonathan ASHLEY otp to Mary PARKER otp
11 Apr 1815 John ASHLEY otp, bachelor to Sarah DOLBY otp, spinster
15 Jan 1834 Edward ASHLEY otp to Maria DENTON otp
Kettering Parish Church BT's
29 Jan 1811
John ASHLEY of Geddington bach sawyer to Elizabeth CHAPMAN otp spin
All these marriages can be viewed at the Northampton Record Office at
Wootton Hall.
Sandy
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seahall
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Philip
There is a Thomas born in 1781 and a sister Sarah in 1777 to Edward
& Hannah Ashley and a John in 1792 to Edward & Elizabeth so I think
you are right they would be brothers if we can find the 1st marriage details.
I can not see one in the County.
Sandy
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Hhodgetts
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Wow, thank you for all that information Sandy. Thank you somehow doesn't seem enough!
The Ashley family is one I have enjoyed tracing as they married into a family in Bracknell, Windsor in 1896 (Bristor) that I am directly descended from on my mothers side.
The Ashley's seemed to be fairly ordinary folk. Edward Ashley b 1814 as married Maria Denton 15 Jan 1834 was an Ag Lab on the 1841, but on the 1851 was a Handle Maker and remained so through out the censuses till he died at the grand age of 85 in Q4 of 1898. He was widowed by the time of the 1871 census. More digging to do!
Anyway, I ramble as usual. The above Edward and Maria had several children (no suprise there) one of which was Thomas born abt 1837. He married an Elizabeth (I think Ashton) of Geddington. Thomas was also a Handle Maker like his father. Of the children he and Elizabeth had, one, their eldest, Edward born 1861 (2 months old on the 1861 census) went on to be a Lawyer, and the one I am most interested in Ashton Ashley (I think that is his mothers maiden name) born about July or August of 1870 (8 months on the 1871 census) shows up on the 1901 census as a Bricklayer at Marton House in Sunninghill, Ascot. Haven't yet found him on the 1881.
Why he went south I don't know, but I think he will have done alright for himself. The whole point of me telling you this is to show you a wedding picture I have of his marriage to Elizabeth Bristor in Q2 of 1896. The Bristor's were mainly in service in some of the big houses in the Sunninghill area, but the mother had a laundry business of her own and some of her children worked with / for her.
To the picture. I hope you enjoy seeing it. I don't have many names to fit the faces, but obviously the groom is Ashton Ashley and the bride Elizabeth Bristor. To the right of the bride is my Gt Gt Grandmother Mary Olive Bristor (nee Sharp) who had her own laundry business. Just out of interest my Gt Grandmother is on the back row 5th in from the left and she is with her husband 6th from the left with the beard. Just how many of the Ashleys are there I have no idea. A gem of a picture to have.
Once again many thanks for your kind assistance
Regards
Philip
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Northumberland; Johnson, Johnston, Dodds, Rutherford, Gray, Kennedy, Wilson, Sanderson, Davidson and other Border Marauders as they are discovered on this journey.
Berkshire; Knight, Bristor, Sharpe, Sharp, Ashley.
Suffolk / Essex; Perce, Pearce, Pearse, Pierce, Hayes.
Midlands; Hodgetts, Parker, Easthope.
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Hhodgetts
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I would also like to show you a picture of the first two children that Ashton Ashley and his wife Elizabeth Bristor had. In the image is Ashton's mother in law Mary Olive Bristor with daughter Elizabeth. The child on Mary's knee is Eva Ruth Ashley born 1897 and the baby in Elizabeth's arms is Olive Ashley born 1899. They had at least two other children, Millicent born late 1900 and Nancy born 1903. At this point in time I don't know if there were any other children.
I hope you have enjoyed seeing them.
Philip
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Northumberland; Johnson, Johnston, Dodds, Rutherford, Gray, Kennedy, Wilson, Sanderson, Davidson and other Border Marauders as they are discovered on this journey.
Berkshire; Knight, Bristor, Sharpe, Sharp, Ashley.
Suffolk / Essex; Perce, Pearce, Pearse, Pierce, Hayes.
Midlands; Hodgetts, Parker, Easthope.
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seahall
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Hi Philip
They are some of the most wonderful pictures I have ever seen.
Thank you so much for sharing them here with us.
Heirlooms for your future generations too.
I wonder if it may be a good idea to post on them in the Common Room
so if anyone else is related to the people on them they could help identify
some for you.
Just ask if you need any more help as lots of folk waiting to assist.
Oh by the way Geddington is a village most Northamptonshire folk don't
like to drive through as it has speed camera's either end.
Sandy
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Hhodgetts
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Philip
There is a Thomas born in 1781 and a sister Sarah in 1777 to Edward
& Hannah Ashley and a John in 1792 to Edward & Elizabeth so I think
you are right they would be brothers if we can find the 1st marriage details.
I can not see one in the County.
Sandy
Hi Sandy, whilst searching for further information about the Ashley's in the Geddington area I came across information about the village of Ashley which is a few miles N E of Market Harborough and that got me to wondering if that is where the family originated from. Geographically it is not all that far from Geddington (about 11 miles). It is right on the border of Leicestershire. Do you know if there was a county border change at all that might have put Ashley in Leicestershire in the time were are referring to? Boundary changes have caused me problems with research in Berkshire, Wiltshire and Gloucestershire, that is why I ask. If there was such a change, then the marriage details of the above may well be in Leicestershire.
Since you liked the pictures so much, I thought I would post one of the Ashleys daughter Nancy who was born in 1903 for you to see. A good looking girl.
Philip
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Northumberland; Johnson, Johnston, Dodds, Rutherford, Gray, Kennedy, Wilson, Sanderson, Davidson and other Border Marauders as they are discovered on this journey.
Berkshire; Knight, Bristor, Sharpe, Sharp, Ashley.
Suffolk / Essex; Perce, Pearce, Pearse, Pierce, Hayes.
Midlands; Hodgetts, Parker, Easthope.
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Hhodgetts
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Hi Sandy, thank you for the additional information. It will be interesting to see what comes of it.
Philip
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Northumberland; Johnson, Johnston, Dodds, Rutherford, Gray, Kennedy, Wilson, Sanderson, Davidson and other Border Marauders as they are discovered on this journey.
Berkshire; Knight, Bristor, Sharpe, Sharp, Ashley.
Suffolk / Essex; Perce, Pearce, Pearse, Pierce, Hayes.
Midlands; Hodgetts, Parker, Easthope.
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