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Topic: HELP! I'm in the 'DARK'!!! (Read 2151 times)
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deb usa
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Hi again
In 1861
Buckland Brewer
Orleigh Lodge
Joseph DARK 31 ag lab
Jane 24 glover
Reuben 6
Thomas 4
Orleigh Lodge is on the page before the Hamlyns who are living at Bearah, which is most probably the name of the farm ... so joseph is not too far away from where he was residing in 1855.
will search some more
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millymollymandy
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Hello Deb,
Thanks for that.
On Joseph and Jane's Marriage Certificate, no mention is made of Joseph's father's name. Would this have meant that he was illegitimate? If he was deceased, surely it would have mentioned this. Any ideas please?
MMM 
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deb usa
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Hi MMM
in 1851
Monkleigh
Rudd
John ARNOLD 5? bargeman b Ashreigney
Betsy wife 37 b Wear Gifford
JANE 14 Glover b Monkleigh
Anne 6 scholar b "
William 4 b monkleigh
Charles 2 months b "
Jane BLIGHT step daughter 14 glover b Wear Gifford
Betsy " " " 12 glover b "
Harriet Jones vistor unm 18 glover
will search for Joseph Dark in 1851... Joseph was b c 1830 will look for him in 1841 and 51 ....
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deb usa
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I have looked on IGI and cannot find Joseph b c 1830
in 1841 ...this may be him with his family
Parkham
cannot make out name of farm
Thomas Dark farmer 40 Y
Miriam 38 Y
Thomas 13 Y
john 11 Y
Joseph 7 Y ...his age still does not add up to b c 1830
Thirza 3 Y
Ellen1 Y
'up the road at another farm'
Joseph DARK farmer 35 Y
rebecca 30 Y
Mary 9 Y
Louisa 7 Y
John 5 Y
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John Dark 15 Y
arrrgghhhhh
deb 
added ...In the 1861 Joseph was b Parkham and Jane in Monkleigh
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millymollymandy
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Hello again,
I don't think this is the Joseph in question. If you look back at my initial query, I have a copy of Joseph Dark's and Mary Pooley's Marriage Cert. dated 5 October, 1861. They were both residing in Woolfardisworthy. Thomas was named as Joseph's father. I think we ruled this Joseph out. It's getting very confusing again!
MMM 
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deb usa
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hi again
yep I am a little confused..
okay we have Anne Dark/t born 1862 who ends up marrying George Spiller ... her dad on marriage cert state Joseph Dark as her dad.
we then have a 1861 and 1871 census of Anne's parents ...Joseph Dark and Jane Arnold who married 1855. Joseph in 1861 staes he was born Parkham and jane Arnold was b Monkleigh.
so the Joseph age 7 with Miriam and Thomas is the Joseph who married Mary Pooley in 1861 and not Jane Arnold .....
arrgghh do I have this right ?
deb
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deb usa
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wooohoooo MMM
found him under Joseph DAVK
In 1841 he is in Buckland Brewer working for Farmer Hamlyn at BEARAH , he is 12 , MS and born in county.
still no parents .... arrghhhh ...
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hi MMM
I am having trouble finding him , Joseph Dark, that is ,in 1851 ...I checked in with farmer Hamlyn at Bearah and he is not there or in the area ....
ummm will keep looking ...shall we look further back on Jane Arnold and family ...
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if you go to Genuki for Buckland brewer you find a directory transcript with this extract
HAMLYN James, farmer, Thorne
HAMLYN Samuel, farmer, Barah
HARDING William, baker and shopkeeper
HARRIS Robert, farmer, The Barton
HAWKINS Richard, carpenter
HEAL Lawrence, farmer, Buda
JENKINS James, farmer, Ley
three hamlets are linked to BB but no Barah or variation so it does look like a farm name
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Hello again,
Thanks Deb USA and Trees for your information, it's much appreciated. I wonder where Joseph could have been at the time of the 1851 Census, he seems to have disappeared!
I will see what more I can find on Jane Arnold and family Deb. Maybe that might shed some light.
MMM
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Hi MMM
in 1851
Monkleigh
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John ARNOLD 5? bargeman b Ashreigney
Betsy wife 37 b Wear Gifford
JANE 14 Glover b Monkleigh
Anne 6 scholar b "
William 4 b monkleigh
Charles 2 months b "
Jane BLIGHT step daughter 14 glover b Wear Gifford
Betsy " " " 12 glover b "
Harriet Jones vistor unm 18 glover
deb
Hi MMM
In 1841
Monkleigh
Salterns Cottage
John ARNOLD ag lab
Anna ARNOLD 15 Glover
Eliza " 10
JANE 5
So it looks like her mum had already died...
The only IGI christening I can find is
Eliza ARNOLD 5 feb 1832
Parents ; John Arnold and Ann
there is an IGI submitted entry for Jane but it states that her mum is Betsy ... which looks like someone has just submitted it from the info on 1851.
deb
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Found Betsy Blight, 25, in Wear Gifford with her two daughters June/Jane, 4 and Betsy 2. She is a glover and they are transcribed under the name BRIGHT.
trying to find the marriage of john Arnold to a Betsy Blight and one for his first marriage to Ann..
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deb usa
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In 1861
Buckland Brewer
Orleigh Lodge
Joseph DARK 31 ag lab
Jane 24 glover
Reuben 6
Thomas 4
Orleigh Lodge is on the page before the Hamlyns who are living at Bearah, which is most probably the name of the farm ... so joseph is not too far away from where he was residing in 1855.
Just thinking out loud again ... His son was named Reuben , which to me sounds quite unique ...
I found this on IGI , extracted record
Christening;
Reuben Squire DARK
11 Dec 1808
Bideford
Mother; Susanna Dark
Cannot find anything else on him on IGI or on census records .... will look some more
deb
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Maybe this will confuse the issue a bit more...I have a John Darke wed to Mary Marsh c 1813 in Black Torrington, Devon.
Her parents were John Marsh b 1757 Buckland Brewer, Devon and Mary Farmer
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Researching - Brinkwood, Chapman, Kirby & Swan from Kent, Marsh (Mash in some records) from Buckland Brewer, Devon, Williams, Dobson, Thurgood from London, Hanks from Nailsworth
Also Irish search - Bradford, Bradley, Conroy, Russell, Sheridan.
Also Scottish search- Aitken/Atken, Berrie, Miller, Munro/Munroe, McKenzie, Pattie. Pender
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