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JustKia
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My grandmother was raised by her aunt, and this aunt was taken to the "home for incurables" circa 1936/1937. She died in 1938.
My grandmother never saw her aunt again after they took her away.
They lived in Bury St Edmunds.
Would anyone happen to know what the "home for incurables" might have been?
Is it still in existence today?
Might there be any records available?
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MARLOW/JECOCK - Northamptonshire/Warwickshire : WIMBUSH/JUSTICE - Oxfordshire/Warwickshire : SCALES/BRIDGES/ENGLISH/JARMAN - Suffolk : GARRETT/GIBBS - Warwickshire : DEVOS - Scotland (Aberdeen)/France(Dunkerque) : MURRAY - Ireland(Down)/Scotland(Lochs) : TIGHE/TREACY - Cork Stanley Charles SCALES b.1899 - Where are you? *** Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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greensleeves
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That sounds a terribly sad story; I wonder what happened to the poor woman.
I don't know if this is the same place, but there used to be a St Mary's Hospital in Bury St Edmunds which originally was part of the Workhouse there. As late as the 1960s it was being used as a geriatric hospital, or infirmary, I think it was described as.
Regards,
Greensleeves
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Suffolk: Pearl(e) & variations - Brettenham, Hitcham,Rattlesden; Waddilove - Rattlesden and possibly Norfolk. Garnham - Belstead, Ipswich & area.
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick - West Hartlepool, Middlesbrough, Leeds, Merrington.
Shadforth - Hartlepool/Stockton
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JustKia
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At the time Aunt Nell's husband said to my grandmother "you do realise she's dying don't you?", as "they" took Aunt Nell away. Nothing more was ever spoken about. My grandmother and her cousins were expected to just carry on as if nothing had ever happened.
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MARLOW/JECOCK - Northamptonshire/Warwickshire : WIMBUSH/JUSTICE - Oxfordshire/Warwickshire : SCALES/BRIDGES/ENGLISH/JARMAN - Suffolk : GARRETT/GIBBS - Warwickshire : DEVOS - Scotland (Aberdeen)/France(Dunkerque) : MURRAY - Ireland(Down)/Scotland(Lochs) : TIGHE/TREACY - Cork Stanley Charles SCALES b.1899 - Where are you? *** Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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suffolkmawther
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'Jumper' & Eliza Fulker
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As Greensleeves has given you the info about St Mary's - the only other Home for the Incurables I can think of is the one I used to pass when travelling on the bus to college many years ago.
Although this one is a long way from Suffolk.
But as it has a website, it might give you an insight in the sort of hospital that was given this name.
http://www.rhn.org.uk/doc.asp?catid=69&docid=132
The hospital and home for incurables.
Pat ...
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Every time I find an ancestor, I have to find two more !
SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally from Framlingham/Parham Suffolk)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert and Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith/Barnes LND - Fulker
LONDON/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
Gt-Grandfather Michael Wilson was born in Cork, lived in Fulham London - arrived Boston USA 1889 alone - what happened next?
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JustKia
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I've now received Ellen's death cert.
The place of death is given as Mill Road, Bury St Ed - would anyone know what type of establishment might have been there?
Her cause of death surprised me and I expect will surprise my grandmother too.
it is given as 1 a) anorexia nervosa b) melancholia
Am I right in guessing that the melancholia is referring to depression?
I'm now wondering if the poor woman starved herself to death as a reaction to being institutionalised or if the anorexia was part of the reason she was "taken away"?
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MARLOW/JECOCK - Northamptonshire/Warwickshire : WIMBUSH/JUSTICE - Oxfordshire/Warwickshire : SCALES/BRIDGES/ENGLISH/JARMAN - Suffolk : GARRETT/GIBBS - Warwickshire : DEVOS - Scotland (Aberdeen)/France(Dunkerque) : MURRAY - Ireland(Down)/Scotland(Lochs) : TIGHE/TREACY - Cork Stanley Charles SCALES b.1899 - Where are you? *** Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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suffolkmawther
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'Jumper' & Eliza Fulker
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Mill Road is off Hospital Road, which is where the Suffolk General Hospital was established in 1826. the original building had been for the military (originally an armoury), but it wTs enlarged in 1846 and rebuilt in 1864. Some of the buildings of the old hospital still exist, but many have been demolished over the years and there is much new building in the area.
A nursing home in Mill Road (Drummond Court was built in 1999).
This hospital continued as the main hospital until the new West Suffolk Hospital was built in the 1970s.
By the way, medicinal orders for the first year included a request for 200 leeches 
If you check out the Bury Past and Present Society web site, there are some old photographs of hospitals. They also have a contact email and might be able to tell you more about the Mill Road Hospital.
http://www.burypastandpresent.org.uk/j_index.html#Hospitals
Pat ...
PS Have just checked my copy of 'The Way We Were - Bury St Edmunds & District' which was a Bury Free Press Special looking at life over 100 years, and it shows the workhouse in College Road saying that the inmates were transferred to St Mary's Hospital in Mill Road by the turn of the century - so Greensleeves was right about that 
Having difficulty typing in the 'box' jumping around all the time (which is disconcerting as that is my main problem with dyslexia, the letters on the pages of books I read 'jump around'
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Every time I find an ancestor, I have to find two more !
SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally from Framlingham/Parham Suffolk)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert and Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith/Barnes LND - Fulker
LONDON/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
Gt-Grandfather Michael Wilson was born in Cork, lived in Fulham London - arrived Boston USA 1889 alone - what happened next?
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JustKia
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Out of interest if she died in St Mary's Hospital or such would I expect to see that on the death cert?
This one states 36 Mill Road. Would that be more likely to be a residential address or would they have actually give the address of the hospital rather than the name of it?
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MARLOW/JECOCK - Northamptonshire/Warwickshire : WIMBUSH/JUSTICE - Oxfordshire/Warwickshire : SCALES/BRIDGES/ENGLISH/JARMAN - Suffolk : GARRETT/GIBBS - Warwickshire : DEVOS - Scotland (Aberdeen)/France(Dunkerque) : MURRAY - Ireland(Down)/Scotland(Lochs) : TIGHE/TREACY - Cork Stanley Charles SCALES b.1899 - Where are you? *** Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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JustKia
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That's exactly what I was wondering.
I appreciate all the info that Greensleeves, Pat and Gaille have added here - thank you =)
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MARLOW/JECOCK - Northamptonshire/Warwickshire : WIMBUSH/JUSTICE - Oxfordshire/Warwickshire : SCALES/BRIDGES/ENGLISH/JARMAN - Suffolk : GARRETT/GIBBS - Warwickshire : DEVOS - Scotland (Aberdeen)/France(Dunkerque) : MURRAY - Ireland(Down)/Scotland(Lochs) : TIGHE/TREACY - Cork Stanley Charles SCALES b.1899 - Where are you? *** Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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suffolkmawther
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'Jumper' & Eliza Fulker
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Just to confirm, when the workhouse in College Road closed, the inmates that needed medical help were transferred to St Mary's Hospital, which was not a workhouse. However, no doubt it had the association with the former workhouse.
Pat ...
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Every time I find an ancestor, I have to find two more !
SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally from Framlingham/Parham Suffolk)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert and Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith/Barnes LND - Fulker
LONDON/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
Gt-Grandfather Michael Wilson was born in Cork, lived in Fulham London - arrived Boston USA 1889 alone - what happened next?
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JustKia
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I know the family were very poor.
It was only by virtue of a benefactor, who took my grandmother for 6 months, that Ellen didn't send her to the workhouse.
They were also Salvation Army, if that would have made any difference to how or where Ellen would have been treated.
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