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Chris in 1066Land
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You need go no further than the East Sussex Record Office - just a few yards from the St John Sub Castro Churchyard
AMS2134A-2187 Separately catalogued on A2A
Tourle family of Landport in Lewes St Ann, 1708-1878: probates, legacy receipts, settlement on the marriage of Thomas Madgwick and Dorothy Tourle, 1754; correspondence, 1803-1812, 1837; executorship letterbook, 1844-1864; leases of Landport Farm, the tithes of Houndean Farm (Pellatt-Tourle, 1757-1784), two mills, a stable and a granary on Spittle Hill (Tourle-Kennard, 1764), the tithes of Lewes St Ann, 1708-1784; copies of court roll, Lewes Burgus: site of the freemasons' hall and of the site of the workhouse near Brack Mount (Boore-Tourle, 1804), 1804, 1811; property includes houses in Fisher Street Lewes; land called Breachmead and The Riddens in Lewes and Hamsey; New Innings Marsh in Pevensey; the manor of Woodhorne otherwise Arlington Rectory, Berwick copyhold farm near Chilver Bridge, two barns and land near Milton Street and land called Pierces, all in Arlington; Halls in Wilmington; farm in Hailsham; farm in Southease; Broomham Farm in Ripe, copyhold of Laughton manor; Madgwick estate in Dallington and Brightling; property in Herstmonceux, Wartling and Hailsham settled on the marriage of Walter Woodhams and Ann Tourle in 1744; Sinder Farm in Chailey and Newick; Beechwood Farm in Lewes St John and Hamsey; Spittle Barn and part of The Wallands in Lewes St Ann; share in the brig Chance; settlement on marriage of John Roberts and Sarah Tourle, 1798, with counsel's opinion after separation and the death of ST, 1826
Also try the A2A catalogue - its on line. Put "TOURLE OF LANDPORT" in the query box - there are 6 pages of manuscripts, deeds, documents, etc.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/
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There is not many DUFFY surnames in Sussex, and there are only 5 marraiges in the whole of the county up to 1838
Archdeaconry of Lewes Marriage Licence, Date: 13 Nov 1833:
Frances DUFFY, widow of Brighton & William CONDON, bachelor of the same parish - the licence was granted and they married on the same day.
Arundel, West Sussex, Date: 7 Nov 1838:
Hannah DUFFEY, spinster 21 servant daughter of Jo DUFFEY tailor & Luke PESKETT, bachelor 24 labour son of Ric PESKETT labr
both of the same parish.
Eastbourne, East Sussex, Date: 9 Apr 1811:
James DUFFY & Katherine GARVAN, both of this parish by Banns
witnessed by Wm JONES & Thos HART
Westfield, East Sussex, Date: 2 Mar 1824:
Jane DUFFY & Richard AKER
Brighton, East Sussex, Date: 24 Jun 1816:
John DUFFEY, bachelor of 51st Foot & Hannah HOPKINS, spinster of the same parish - married by Banns
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johngirl
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Thankyou Chris,
It says that Frances was a widow so that means she was married at some stage to a Duffy. Will see if I can find a Baptism for Ann ,maybe I will then find out who her father was.
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JOHN- Pembrokeshire Wales. FREEMAN -England? MEDLICOT -Monmouthshire Wales. ISAAC -Gloucestershire and Liverpool.[Toxteth Park] SNOW- England .Convict. FRAZER- England.Convict. DEAL -Ireland .Convict. KEMP -Saint Mary Cray Kent.Eynsford Wilmington England.Convict. BLACKBERRY -Whitechapel .Convict. CONDON -alias DUFFY-Brighton England. Convict. BANTICK -Ixworth Sussex England. Convict. JONES England?  [George]Convict. ROSE-England. Convict. All came to Tas |
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Chris in 1066Land
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Yes, got to agree with you - but that marraige did not take place here in Sussex (not on SMI) so must be in a neighbouring county - possibly Kent.
Maybe an enquiry on the Kent board might not go amiss
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johngirl
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Thankyou once again Chris,
I must get a detailed map of England and start trying to figure out where all the Towns and Countys are.I get confused.
Will post on the Kent board as you suggested. 
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JOHN- Pembrokeshire Wales. FREEMAN -England? MEDLICOT -Monmouthshire Wales. ISAAC -Gloucestershire and Liverpool.[Toxteth Park] SNOW- England .Convict. FRAZER- England.Convict. DEAL -Ireland .Convict. KEMP -Saint Mary Cray Kent.Eynsford Wilmington England.Convict. BLACKBERRY -Whitechapel .Convict. CONDON -alias DUFFY-Brighton England. Convict. BANTICK -Ixworth Sussex England. Convict. JONES England? [George]Convict. ROSE-England. Convict. All came to Tas |
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Woman_Hollering
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Chris:
Could you check to see if there are any Brigman/Briggman/Bridg(e)man surnames??? I'd really appreciate it!
Thanks,
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi there Terri
Without looking, I know that there is a family of Bridgman(s) there because he was a stonemason and carved a lot of the memorials in this churchyard as well as lots of other yards in Sussex.
What variation of the name does your research favour the most
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Woman_Hollering
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Hi, Chris:
Oh, yes, I know of whom you refer. It's a bit of a jumble because I strongly suspect that stonemason Bridgman originally spelled his name Brigman or Briggman (or, at least his forebears did). Could you just look at the period prior to 1725 for Brigman or Briggman? That should do me.
Thanks,
Terri
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Terri
Have checked the following churches in Lewes
St John Sub Castro
Southover
All Saints
South Malling
All yielded a NILL result for Brigman / Briggman prior to 1725
Sorry about that
I do not have databases for St Michaels (Anglo Catholic Church) or St Annes churches in Lewes - there may be some in either of those
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Chris:
Thanks for looking!
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Hello Chris 1066
I am researching a Tom Mantell from Lewes who was buried at St Johns Sub Castro in February 1928, is there a family tomb in the churchyard or a stained glass window in the Church which I believe Tom Mantell wished to have installed when he died (listed in his will I believe) ?
Many thanks
Sue
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Hi Sue
Just spotted this on my way out - will give you a proper answer later this evening
Watch this space
1928 February 15 Mantell Tom m 161 High St 74 Lewes Monument No 296
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Hi again
Sorry, there is not a stained glass window to Tom Mantel - but there is a plaque inside the church which has the following inscription:
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In memory of/ Thomas Austin Mantel/ of this parish/ who died 1st November
1874/ aged 48 years/ also of/ Fanny his wife/ who died 2nd August 1907/ aged 82 years/ also of/ Fanny their daughter/ who died 9th June 1891/ aged 40 years/ and of/ Tom their son/ who died 11th February 1928/ aged 74 years/
Do you want their baptism records and other burial records of relatives / siblings.
I have transcribed all registers and have the details on my computer
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi again
Also in the churchyard of St John Sub Castro there is a memorial over their last resting place inscribed as listed below:
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"In the Midst of Life we are in Death"
In Memory Of/ Thomas Mantell/ Who Died December 1st 1874/ Aged 48 Years/ Also of Fanny His Daughter/ Who Departed This Life June 9 1891/ Aged 40 Years/ Also of Fanny Mantell/ Wife and Mother Of The Above/ Who After Over 9 Years Of suffering / Patiently Borne/ Departed This Life On August 2nd 1907/ In Her 82 Year/ Also Of Tom Mantell/ Son Of Thomas And Fanny Mantell/ Who Died February 11th 1928/ In The 75th Year Of His Age/
And the tombstone - not as grand as the one in the church is shown below
Hope that helps you
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Hi Chris
Thank you so much for the pictures and details of the Mantells, its nice to start to get to know them as my Great Grandmother was Tom's housekeeper at 161 High St Lewes for about 30 years until he died
I am finding out lots about his history as an athlete especially running and winning lots of trophies of which he left some to the Lewes Corporation back in 1928 ( I wonder what happened to them ? )
I visited Lewes records office for the first time two weeks ago, so will definitely return again to visit the church and enjoy the lovely town
Regards
Sue
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