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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 17 August 04 14:31 UTC (UK) »

Chris, I would be very grateful if you could help me. My 2xgreat grandmother was CAROLINE PHILLIPS who was baptised at St John Sub Castro in 1824. She married CHARLES STEELE and in 1881 they were living at Abinger Place, Lewes, which is close to the church. Do you have any inscriptions for PHILLIPS or STEELE? My Lewes ancestors also lived on Priory Street, Southover. Do you have any records for St John's, Southover please? Thanks, Ann
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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 17 August 04 16:03 UTC (UK) »

Hi Rains4

Here is the baptism

1824 Dec   5, Phillips   Caroline, f, George & Mary Ann, OTP, Ostler

Will now check for Phillips & Steele Inscriptions / Monuments.

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 17 August 04 16:07 UTC (UK) »

Hi again

St John Sub Castro

1907   June   13   Philips   Amos   m   37 Sun St   68   OTP   
1828   April   3   Philips   Eliza   f      infant      
1846   July   3   Philips   Frances   f   Fisher St   28   OTP   
1832   April   25   Philips   Mary Ann   f      3      
1827   December   20   Philips   William    m      60      
1802   January   3   Phillips   Ann   f            
1841   January   3   Phillips   Eliza   f   St Marys Lane   1.3   OTP   
1836   January   17   Phillips   Elizabeth   f      2   All Saints   
1807   June   9   Phillips   Elizabeth    f      26      
1915   January   23   Phillips   Ellen Victoria   f   2 Offham Terrace   0.1   OTP   
1873   January   19   Phillips   Eve Ann   f      74      306
1844   January   19   Phillips   Frances   f   Mount Pleasant   5   OTP   
1895   January   12   Phillips   George   m   The Union   70                  
1857   May   3   Phillips   Harriet   f      48                  
1809   December   17   Phillips   Henry   m      1.3                  
1887   January   12   Phillips   Henry   m      74   OTP               
1811   November   24   Phillips   James   m      12                  
1841   November   29   Phillips   James   m   White Hill   50   OTP               
1855   January   31   Phillips   Jemima   f      75         Head, Widow   Agricultural Labourers widow   Mount Pleasant   Ashurst, Kent
1853   April   24   Phillips   John   m      48         Married   sLater jm   York St   Cliffe
1822   March   10   Phillips   John    m      20                  
1831   April   24   Phillips   John    m      infant                  
1826   November   12   Phillips   Lucy   f   Governess of the Poor House   34                  
1852   November   28   Phillips   Mary   f      10         Daughter, Unmarried   Scholar   York St   All Saints, Lewes
1878   November   28   Phillips   Sarah   f      96   OTP               
1889   December   24   Phillips   Sarah   f      74   OTP               
1840   February   16   Phillips   Sarah Creser   f      infant                  
1847   June   30   Phillips   Thomas   m   Star Lane   75   OTP               


1890   February   5   Steele   Caroline   f      66   OTP   325
1900   December   15   Steele   Charles   m      79   St Michaels   325
1877   April   14   Steele   Herbert Clarence   m      2.6      

Hope the above helps

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 17 August 04 16:17 UTC (UK) »

Hi Rains4

Think you might like this

Monument 325 - St John Sub Castro, Lewes
............/
Caroline/
The beloved wife of/
Charles Steele/
............./
Who departed this life/
On the 30th Jan 1890/
In her 66th year/
Also of the above named/
Charles Steele/
Who departed this life/
On the 11th Dec 1890/
In his 80th year/ 


As you can see above, there were a couple of lines that we could not transcribe - but all the details are there.

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #49 on: Thursday 19 August 04 14:38 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for all this information Chris; I am truly grateful, especially for the photo of my 2xgreat grandparents' gravestone. I couldn't find it when I visited Lewes recently, which was a disappointment after travelling about 200 miles! Your hard work is much appreciated by us Sussex exiles! Thanks again. Ann
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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #50 on: Thursday 19 August 04 15:17 UTC (UK) »

Hi Rains4

Happy to be able to help you, and even more pleased that the many hours spent in the churchyard were of some use to others.

To find the stone, upon entering the church yard, follow the foot path down to the bottom of the yard  where it is a bit overgrown - on your extreme left near the edge of the yard you will find your Steele monument.  (there is a track/pathway round the edge of the yard at the bottom that comes within a couple of feet of your monument)

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #51 on: Friday 20 August 04 09:40 UTC (UK) »

Hello Chris,

Thanks for the directions...next time I visit Lewes I will go and find the stone. I hope you don't mind me asking you something else: do you have any similar records for Southover Church? My mother grew up in that parish, was married there and I believe her parents and at least one grandparent must be buried there. As with St John sub Castro, I couldn't find any readable stones. The surname in this case is BEAUMONT, although there may possibly be STEELE graves too. Thanks. Ann
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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #52 on: Friday 20 August 04 10:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi there Rains4

St John the Baptist Southover - Burial Register Transcription.

Have checked back as far as 1860 for Steele or Beaumont with just 2 results - but no monument identified as yet.

1934 Dec 27th, Anna Maria Beaumont, aged 80 of Southover
1910 Sep 21st, George Beaumont, aged 72 of Southover

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #53 on: Friday 20 August 04 13:51 UTC (UK) »

Wonderful! These are my great grandparents. You are a star...thank you.

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #54 on: Friday 20 August 04 14:55 UTC (UK) »

Rains4

As I said before - happy to oblige.

If you need any further help with Sussex, you know where to find me

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #55 on: Thursday 09 September 04 14:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris, or anyone else know can tell me about St John-sub-Castro

I'm a researcher on Anglo-Saxon history at Cambridge University (specifically on Anglo-Saxon charters), and I am very keen to get hold of an image of the monument to Magnus which came from the old church and is now on the East wall.  Descriptions I have come across about it sometimes use the term 'Lombardic letters', but one said there were Anglo-Saxon letter-forms, and I'd be really interested to see a picture and decide for myself.  (Also although my main area of expertise is manuscripts (I used to work in the manuscripts department at the British Library) and not inscriptions, if anyone would be interested in my opinion I'd be happy to give it...)

I realise that this is not so much a genealogy question as a local history one, and I hope that I don't annoy anyone by posting on this board -- but there is a sort-of family history link because it has been suggested that this Magnus is a relative (brother? son?) of Harold II, something else I would also like to check out.  But I think I need a picture before I can really start looking into all these things, so if anyone can help I'd be really very grateful!

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #56 on: Thursday 09 September 04 14:54 UTC (UK) »

Hi Rebecca

How about this

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #57 on: Thursday 09 September 04 15:28 UTC (UK) »

Thanks! -- I hadn't realised it was as large as that, I was expecting a rectangular plaque.  It gives an excellent impression of the monument as a whole, but I can't see individual letters very well.  If you have any closer views of the letters I'd be very interested in seeing them, but I can see that that would be rather harder given the size of the monument.  Thanks for your help

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #58 on: Thursday 09 September 04 15:29 UTC (UK) »

Hi again

From 'Historic Lewes and its Buildings'  - Lewes Town Council Official Guide

"In the aisle wall rests the former chancel arch, with a medieval Lombardic inscription about Prince Magnus, a Danish warrior, who became an anchorite here. A picture of it in William Camdens Brittannia (1586) was the first archaeological illustration in an English printed book"

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PS - I will be in Lewes on Monday next, can take close up pics then (have a 5 million pix camera) if you require.


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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #59 on: Thursday 09 September 04 15:40 UTC (UK) »

Thanks, that's brilliant!  I'll go and have a look at what Camden says -- I hadn't realised he'd reproduced it.  Thanks also for the book reference!

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