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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 19 May 04 17:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris
Sorry for the delay in replying but my computer crashed.
I am very new to this and am grateful for all help and can assure you it is not negative!  I live in East Anglia so unable to get to the Lewes office - could I trouble you for whatever info is available for the marriage? I appreciate that there is no certificate and the info not standard but I am hoping for a little luck!
(27 March 1831)

Just a thought do you many Richardson's bap at St John's from 1813 to 1831.

Please advise me of the etiquette - am I asking too much?  If I am being cheeky, rude or abusing your help please do tell me.

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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 19 May 04 18:39 UTC (UK) »

Hi Anne-Marie

I have printed off your request for info for the marriage uou require - next time I go to the record office, possibly next week, will look for further details for you.

Checked St John Sub Castro for baptisms for Richardsons - NILL
very unusuals that, either they did not stay in lewes or they changed churches.

There is no etiquette as far as I am concerned about the number of research requests. - Most of the information I have is either contained within my computer on a second hard drive or is in printed format near my computer, so not very difficult to access.

I am happy to share my resources with any genuine researcher.

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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 19 May 04 21:00 UTC (UK) »

You are a star!!!  Thank you for your help.  It is very much appreciated.

Anne-Marie  Cheesy
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« Reply #18 on: Sunday 11 July 04 00:07 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris
Well done Chris what a fantastic thing to do thankyou.

I know in the Church there is a WW1 Memorial Notice Board my Great Uncle's name is on it Jesse Thomas Fry he was killed 12th October 1918, Cambrai, France.

His address at the time was 17, Toronto Terrace, Lewes he was married to Ada Mary May Fry nee Gabb I know he had a child Nellie. J. A Fry born about 1817 I have often wondered did he ever see the child.

What happened to the family after this date I do not know.
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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 11 July 04 00:22 UTC (UK) »

Hi there

Was just about to switch off and head up the wooden hill when I spotted your posting.

I do have a picture of that board and here is his daughters entry from the baptism register

1917 May   13, Fry Mollie Joan Ada, d, f, Jesse Thomas & Ada Mary May, 17 Toronto Terr, Private in R.G.A.

Here are the only burials in that yard - sorry, no headstones

1896 August 6, Fry Francis William, m, 5months, OTP
1902 September 6, Fry Harry, m, 47, OTP
1888 April   18, Fry Walter Thomas, m, 7months, OTP


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« Reply #20 on: Sunday 11 July 04 22:48 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris
Thankyou for the info Chris this is fantastic news if one day I could have a scan of the memorial that would be great.

If Jesse's brothers or sisters were born Hamsey which I understand is near Lewes which church would that be?
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« Reply #21 on: Sunday 11 July 04 23:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi Pauline

Hamsey is on the edge of Lewes:

Kelleys Directory of 1867
HAMSEY is a parish, 2 miles north from Lewes, 10 from Brighton, and 46½ by road from London, in the Eastern division of the county, Barcombe hundred, Lewes rape, county court district, archdeaconry and rural deanery, Chailey union, and diocese of Chichester. The old parish church of St. Peter, standing on a picturesque knoll, has nave, chancel, and square tower; but, in consequence of the inconvenience of its position, a new church has been erected, also named St. Peter's, for the parish of Hamsey, in its hamlet of Offham: the building is in the Early English style, and consists of a nave, double aisles, and chancel: it has a square tower, with shingled spire, and greatly owes its origin to the munificence of the family of the incumbent. The living is a rectory, yearly value £570, with residence, in the gift of, and held by, the Rev. Sir George Croxton Shiffner, Bart., M.A., of Christ Church, Oxford; the Rev. Reynold Harwood is curate. The Cooksbridge station of the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway is in this parish, one mile north-west. The area is 2,761 acres, and the population in 1861 was 541.
OFFHAM is a hamlet, one mile west; NORTH END, one mile north; COMBE, a mile and a half west; HEWIN STREET, 2 miles north



The words 'Hamsey' often appear in the Registers of St John Sub Castro and South Malling

Will send you the pics if you provide e-mail address by personal message

Admin have not got the 'attachement' bit up and running yet since the update

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #22 on: Monday 12 July 04 08:44 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Background Info on Hamsey

http://www.hamseyparishcouncil.info/hamsey/

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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 13 July 04 23:03 UTC (UK) »

Interesting reading Chris & thankyou once again for the photos.

Now I have the correct name for the daughter I will go foward to see if I can find a Marriage for her perhaps the Mother remarried as she would have only been aged 33 when he died.
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« Reply #24 on: Friday 16 July 04 10:12 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris,

You kindly provided me with the burial date and monument photo for Catherine SETFORD, which has given rise to further questions - so what's new!

Her daughter Mary Ann SHAW is named on the headstone, and from that I see she died 3rd July 1937.  Would you have her burial date?

Mary Ann married Charles SHAW in 1883 in Barcombe.  He was born about 1859 in Lewes, the son of Joseph SHAW and Mary Ann.  Might he have been baptised and buried at St. John Sub Castro?

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« Reply #25 on: Friday 16 July 04 13:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mandy

Here are the burials from St John Sub Castro for the shaw surname

1888 August 29  Shaw Alma Frances f 0.5 OTP
1929 February 19  Shaw Charles m 37 Lancaster St 69 OTP 545
1857 April 10  Shaw Ebenezer m 50 714   
1944 November 14  Shaw Elizabeth f 58 Prince Edwards Rd 91 OTP 535
1918 June 1  Shaw Joseph m Lewes Union Infirmary 70 East Chiltington
1878 June 27  Shaw Lucy f The Union 77
1867 April 1  Shaw Mary f 65 714
1937 July   8  Shaw Mary Ann f 37 Lancaster St 72 OTP 543
1853 March 6  Shaw Reuben m 7
1925 October 20  Shaw Richard m 16 Abinger Place 76 OTP 535
1934 February 28  Shaw William m The Infirmary 77 Chailey   

As you can see from the above, there is another Headstone - Number 545

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #26 on: Friday 16 July 04 13:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi again

Monument 545 is a small plaque, made by 'Bridgman' of Lewes, but badly lichen stained.

In Memory
of
Charles Shaw
who died Feb 13th 1929
Aged 69 years


Bridgman Records are in the East Sussex Record Office in the Maltings (just around the corner from the churchyard) - you will be able to view correspondence between Bridgman and who paid for the plaque, when it was erected, how much it cost, etc.

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« Reply #27 on: Friday 16 July 04 13:22 UTC (UK) »

Hi

These are the only shaw baptisms in St John Sub Castro

1846   Mch   22   Shaw   Ellen Rebecca   f   d   Asaph   Winnifred   Edward St   Brewer   Aged 20 Years
1846   Mch   22   Shaw   Rhoda   f   d   Asaph   Winnifred   Edward Sr   Brewer   Aged 18 Years
1847   May   2   Shaw   Ebenezer   m   s   Isaac   Ann   Fisher St   Grocer   
1853   Jan   30   Shaw   Elizabeth   f   d   Joseph   Mary Ann   OTP   Labourer   
1855   Apr   29   Shaw   William   f   d   Joseph   Mary Ann   OTP   Labourer   

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« Reply #28 on: Friday 16 July 04 14:31 UTC (UK) »

Chris, you are wonderful  Cheesy  Thank you so much as you've tidy up some loose ends.  I shall certainly go have a look at the headstone correspondence at the ESRO - I've never thought of looking for things like that before, so I wonder what else might there for other Sussex ancestors.  Thanks for that, another new avenue to pursue.  Mandy
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« Reply #29 on: Friday 16 July 04 15:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mandy

It all helps to put 'Flesh on the Bones' of our Ancestors

This is the Reference Number for those archives

  BRN 01 to BRN 98, East Sussex Record Office, The Maltings, Lewes.

Yes, there are some 98 volumes of the firms books.

I have personally scanned through every volume whilst writing the histoy of the firm, and have extracted data from most of them - got to find where I have stored the file though. When I do, will quote you the best volume for your research.

Most of the Data, apart from the correspondene, is similar to that shown below.

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Fixing the above:
Winhurst 3¼days,    H Townsend 3¼days,    Labour @ 5/-,    lodgings @ 9/6d
17 Iron Cramps,   2½lbs Pitch,    100 Best Bricks,    800 Inferior Bricks,
8lbs of Lead,    12lbs of Sand,   2lb cement,
Friday December 15th 1848
John W Burtenshaw -

Drawing of Tomb (which I cant post)

Portland Stone Tomb as per drawing erected in Ditchling Burial Ground and to include fixing of same @ £27/0/0d
Engraving 117 letters at 1½d per letter = 14/7½d.

 
 


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