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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #180 on: Saturday 06 June 09 14:14 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris

You previously mentioned you have the records for Tom Mantell concerning his baptism plus his relatives and any siblings at St Johns Sub Castro, if you could possibly send these to me too that would be great

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #181 on: Saturday 06 June 09 15:26 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sue

Your wish is my command

Baptisms 1601 - 1845 at St John Sub Castro

1673   Mar   8   Mantell   Mary   f      Edward   Charity         
1685   Nov   22   Mantell   Hannah   f      Edward   Mary         
1812   Mar   23   Mantell   Sarah Ann   f      Thomas   Hannah         
1812   Mar   23   Mantell   Thomas Samuel   m      Thomas Austen   Hannah         
1822   Jan   12   Mantell   Frederick Bert   m      Thomas Austen   Hannah   OTP   Sheriffs Officer   
1822   Jan   12   Mantell   Robert   m      Thomas Austen   Hannah   OTP   Sheriffs Officer   
1796   Mar   28   Manter   William   m      William   Philadelphia         
1664   Apr   14   Mantle   Edward   m      Edward   Charitie         
1817   Jun   20   Mantle   Charles John   m      Thomas Austen   Anne   OTP   Sheriffs Officer   
1817   Jun   20   Mantle   Elen   f      Thomas Austen   Ann   OTP   Sheriffs Officer   
1817   Jun   20   Mantle   George   m      Thomas Austen   Anne   OTP   Sheriffs Officer   

1846 - 1902 Baptisms

1853   Aug   21   Mantell   Tom   m   s   Thomas   Fanny   OTP   Publican
1858   Dec   26   Mantell   Ellen   f   d   Thomas   Harriet   OTP   Labourer
1860   Aug   24   Mantell   Reginald George   m   s      Ada   OTP   -
1874   May   16   Mantell   Arthur    m   s   Samuel   Ann   OTP   Railway Porter

1903 - 1993 Baptisma

NILL

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #182 on: Sunday 07 June 09 15:16 UTC (UK) »

HI Chris, I'm new to the site and am really impressed with the work you are doing. I hope that you might be able to help me find out more about my Lewes roots. I have back tracked to William Simmons who married Jemima Harding at St John's in Lewes, on April 6th 1815, I think that his father was Samuel Simmons and her father was John Harding but I have no other details. Can you help?
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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #183 on: Sunday 07 June 09 16:40 UTC (UK) »

Hi Margaret

First of all welcome to Rootschat and especially the Sussex Boards - one of the best; and thank you for all those nice compliments.

You just mentioned St John - is that St John Sub Castro or St John the Baptist - both are in Lewes.

I notice that William & Jemima married by license:
Extract from the Sussex Marriage Index:
Archdeaconry of Lewes Marriage Licence,  Date:  6 Apr 1815:
Groom: William SIMMONS, bachelor, 20, with consent of father Samuel of the same parish.
Bride: Jemima HARDING, spinster, 18 S.John Sub Castro
Extra Information: SIMMONS Saml. labr All Saints

Marriage
Location: Lewes St. John sub Castro, East Sussex,  Date:  6 Apr 1815:
Groom: William SIMMONS, with consent of father Samuel.
Bride: Jemima HARDING, with consent of father John, both of this parish

This seems to indicate it is Sub Castro, but there is a mention of All Saints in Lewes

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #184 on: Sunday 07 June 09 16:51 UTC (UK) »

Hi again Margaret

I have just checked the Baptism Registers for St John Sub Castro between 1601 and 1902 and there is not one single entry for the surname Harding.

Checking the same time period for the surname Simmons or variants (with or without a 'd') there are some 40 entries - but not one with the name Samuel and there are no entries to William & Jemima either.

This leads me to suspect that they were not originally from Lewes

Have you any further thoughts on this

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #185 on: Monday 08 June 09 13:37 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris in 1066

Once again many thanks for the details on the Mantells, your work on this is much appreciated and will be a great help with my research  Smiley

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #186 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 14:51 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris, brilliant work  !

I have relatives linked to St John sub Castro Lewes. How can I access the information ?

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #187 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 15:53 UTC (UK) »

Hi Facellia

I spent several years surveying, transcribing, photographing and re-checking the data in St John Sub Castro back in the 1990's - therefore all the info is stored on my computer.

I also transcribed the Baptism Registers as well as the Burial Registers and all the data was fed into an excell document.

So, just tell me what you are looking for and I will post details asap

I also did the same with All Saints in Lewes as well as St John the Baptist in Southover and St Michael in South Malling - all of course in Lewes.

I await you command

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #188 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 17:08 UTC (UK) »

Facellia

Looking at your research interests, I would suggest that you are researching Kenward.

Here are the Kenward Baptisms 1846 - 1902

1859   Jan   30   Kenward   Edward Thomas   m   s   William   Mary   OTP   Black Smith
1861   Feb   27   Kenward   Mary Georgiana   f   d   William   Mercy   OTP   Black Smith
1863   Feb   22   Kenward   George Walter   m   s   William   Mercy   OTP   Black Smith
1865   Apr   30   Kenward   Fanny Maria   f   d   William   Mary   OTP   Black Smith
1868   Jun   28   Kenward   Charles Frank   m   s   William   Mercy   White Hill   Smith
1870   Nov   6   Kenward   Alice Emily   f   d   William   Mercy   OTP   Black Smith
1875   Jul   4   Kenward   Agnes ?   f   d   Andrew   Naomi   OTP   Railway Porter
1879   Oct   5   Kenward   Beatrice Reynolds   f   d      Elizabeth   OTP   Charwoman
1881   Sep   30   Kenward   Charles James   m   s   George James   Mary Jane   OTP   Green Grocer
1882   Jun   23   Kenward   Charles James   m   s   George James   may Jane   OTP   Green Grocer
1882   Jun   23   Kenward   Frederiick William   m   s   George James   May Jane   OTP   Green Grocer
1882   Jun   23   Kenward   George Douglas   m   s   George James   May Jane   OTP   Green Grocer
1893   Aug   6   Kenward   Winifred Nellie   f   d   Edward Thomas   Sarah   OTP   Labourer
1897   May   2   Kenward   Selina Mary   f   d   William   Rose   3 Brook St   Gardner

And 1902 to 1999

1928   Oct   28   Kenward   Betty     d   f   William   Alma Elizabeth   3 Mount Cottages   Labourer
1928   Oct   28   Kenward   Doreen     d   f   William   Alma Elizabeth   3 Mount Cottages   Labourer
1954   Nov   28   Kenward   Gail Anne   d   f   Alan   Thirza   9 Horsefield Rd   Hospital Porter
1925   Nov   29   Kenward   Hilda Mary   d   f   Frank Ernest   Hilda   4 Wellington St   Cellerman
1926   Jan   4   Kenward   John Robert   s   m   Thomas   Esther Florence   11 Spring Gdns   Labourer
1926   Jul   25   Kenward   Norman Cecil Thompson               11 Spring Gdns   Labourer
1943   Nov   21   Kenward   Norman John   s   m   Alfred John   Agnes Louisa   4 De la Warne Flats   Private Bexley Regt
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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #189 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 17:12 UTC (UK) »

Hi Again

Here are your burials 1800 - 1993

1879   December   30   Kenward   Beatrice    f      0.4   OTP               
1802   July   6   Kenward   Eleanor   f                        
1832   June   17   Kenward   Eleanor   f      62                  
1907   November   6   Kenward   Ernest Thomas   m   1 St Martins Lane   49   St Michaels               
1818   February   22   Kenward   Harriet   f      32                  
1819   February   28   Kenward   Harriet   f      infant                  
1826   March   8   Kenward   John   m      infant                  
1857   April   21   Kenward   Mary   f      77      
1862   February   2   Kenward   Mary Georgina   f      1.1                  
1825   September   8   Kenward   Robert   m      52                  
1900   August   15   Kenward   Rose   f   The Union   44                  
1838   February   7   Kenward   Sarah   f      infant                  
1825   August   12   Kenward   Thomas   m      10   Brighton   
1898   February   16   Kenward   William   m      69   OTP

Hope thats all OK with you

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #190 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 20:43 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris, thanks very much.
You anticipated my interest. It is indeed Kenward,my Granparents. They had a shop in Lewes for nearly 100 years & several sons all in the the Army & 2 were killed in WW1.

Will checkout the listings later.

Many thanks, Facellia.
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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #191 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 21:13 UTC (UK) »

i Chris, had a quick look & have identified some of my Kenwards in your listings,brilliant

Can I ask you to have a look at All Saints & St Johns Southover. I know some of my Kewards were married at Southover.
Also if you come across any Elphicks I would appreciate the info, they are related to my Kenwards

Much appreciated, Facellia.
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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #192 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 08:11 UTC (UK) »

Hi Facellia

Glad you were able to identify some of your Kenward entries

Here are the Elphick entries from the registers of St John Sub Castro

Baptisms 1601 - 1845

1823   Nov   9   Elphick   George   m      Thomas   Mary   OTP   Butcher
1823   Nov   9   Elphick   James   m      Thomas   Mary   OTP   Butcher
1823   Nov   9   Elphick   Naomie   f      Thomas   Mary   OTP   Butcher
1823   Nov   9   Elphick   William   m      Thomas   Mary   OTP   Butcher
1825   Jan   9   Elphick   Esther   f      Thomas   Mary   OTP   Butcher
1830   Feb   14   Elphick   Naomi   f   d   Thomas   Sarah   OTP   Butcher
1830   Feb   14   Elphick   Sarah Ann   f   d   Thomas   Sarah   OTP   Butcher
1832   Jan   29   Elphick   Enons   m   s   Thomas   Sarah   OTP   Butcher
1832   Nov   4   Elphick   George   m   s   Henry   Caroline   OTP   Labourer
1833   Oct   20   Elphick   Selina   f   d   Thomas   Sarah   OTP   Butcher
1836   Mch   6   Elphick   Agnes Esther   f   d   James   Mary Ann   OTP   Wheel Wright
1837   Feb   19   Elphick   Martha   f   d   Thomas   Sarah   OTP   Butcher
1843   Apr   2   Elphick   Frances Catherine Salsbury   f   d   Timothy   Sarah   North St   Labourer


Baptisms 1846 - 1902

1848   May   14   Elphick   Hannah   f   d   Henry   Martha   Park Cottages   Labourer
1860   Aug   26   Elphick   Eden Rose   f   d      Angela Mary   OTP   -
1868   Sep   27   Elphick   Charlotte Sarah   f   d   Thoedore   Ellen   16 Abinger Pl   Shoe Maker
1870   May   29   Elphick   George Adolphus   m   s   Theodore   Ellen   St Johns   Shoe Maker
1872   Dec   1   Elphick   Nellie Jane   f   d   Theodore   Ellen   OTP   Shoe maker
1875   May   2   Elphick   Edith Emily   f   d   Theodore   Ellen   OTP   Shoe Maker
1877   Apr   1   Elphick   Ada Blanche   f   d   Theodore   Ellen   OTP   Shoe Maker
1879   Jul   6   Elphick   Clara Florence   f   d   Theodore   Ellen   OTP   Shoe Maker
1883   Jul   1   Elphick   Lucy Adeline   f   d   Theodore   Ellen   OTP   Shoemaker
1885   Jun   7   Elphick   Alice Ann   f   d   Frederick   Fanny   Green St   Carpenter
1889   Jun   2   Elphick   Nellie May   f   d   Frederick   Fanny   OTP   Carpenter
1896   May   3   Elphick   Edward Stanley   m   s   Frederick   Fanny   6 Waterloo Pl   Carpenter
1898   Aug   7   Elphick   Ruby Ethel   f   d   Fredreick   Fanny   Waterloo Pl   Carpenter
1901   Mch   3   Elphick   Irene Kathleen   f   d   Frederick   Fanny   6 Waterloo Pl   Carpenter
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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #193 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 08:20 UTC (UK) »

Facellia

And now the Elphick Burials 1800 - 1993

1877   November   29   Elphick   Ada Blanche   f       0.8       
1852   September   2   Elphick   Adeline Agnes   f       6       
1886   April   12   Elphick   Alice Ann   f       1   OTP   
1876   August   31   Elphick   Amos   m   The Union   44       
1931   November   18   Elphick   Ellen   f   2 Market St   88   Lewes   
1826   March   3   Elphick   Enos   m       19   OTP   
1916   April   25   Elphick   Fanny   f   6 Waterloo Place   51   Lewes   496
1934   September   29   Elphick   Frederick   m   6 Waterloo Place   72   Lewes   496
1861   December   15   Elphick   George   m       1.1       
1851   January   11   Elphick   Martha   f       24   All Saints   
1844   December   4   Elphick   Mary Ann   f   Fisher St   31   OTP   
1850   May   2   Elphick   Mary Jane   f       42       
1860   May   7   Elphick   Richard   m       49       
1899   February   22   Elphick   Ruby Ethel   f       0.7   All Saints   
1852   February   15   Elphick   Sarah   f       45       
1917   May   15   Elphick   Theodore Collingham   m   28 Station St   74   OTP   
1850   July   24   Elphick   Thomas   m       79       
1851   June   3   Elphick   Thomas   m       47       
1840   November   20   Elphick    Mary   f       54       
1845   January   27   Elphick    Samuel   m   Fisher St   5   OTP   


Hope the above meets with your requirements

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Re: LEWES - St John Sub Castro
« Reply #194 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 08:35 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks Chris.
That little lot will keep me very busy !


Best wishes.

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