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robflett
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GREGORY/IZZARD
« on: Tuesday 03 March 09 14:43 UTC (UK) »
Any info relating to the following greatly appreciated:

James GREGORY b1822 c24/11/1822 Little Milton, Oxford
Sarah IZZARD b1830 m1843 Q1 Banbury Vol 16 P15
Children:
Sarah b1851
George b1854
Emma b1857
Charles b1860
Harriett b1862
William b1865
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nanny jan
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Re: GREGORY/IZZARD
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 14:57 UTC (UK) »
Hi,

Sarah (b. 1830) would only be 13 years old when married (1843)  Undecided ; perhaps a copy of the marriage certificate would be useful.   It should also show the names and occupations of the fathers which might help to find James and Sarah in any Parish Registers.



Nanny Jan
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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto)
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Re: GREGORY/IZZARD
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 15:32 UTC (UK) »
James GREGORY's occupation is shown as Labourer as to is that of William STONE the fathers of George GREGORY and Phoebe STONE married 28 August 1880 in White Waltham, Berkshire.
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nanny jan
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"Russian" John
Re: GREGORY/IZZARD
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 15:42 UTC (UK) »
Hi,

If you are wanting to trace back from James and/or Sarah you will need a copy of their marriage certificate (1843).


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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto)
robflett
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Re: GREGORY/IZZARD
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 15:50 UTC (UK) »
Yeah that were my thoughts Nanny Jan but your earlier post has put some doubt over if Sarah IZZARD is the right person?  Embarrassed
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Re: GREGORY/IZZARD
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 15:58 UTC (UK) »
Hi,

The marriage certificate should solved the problem;  where did you find her birth year (1830)?  Ages on a census can be inaccurate.

There is certainly a Sarah Izzard listed on the same page for the marriage of James Gregory (1843).


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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto)
robflett
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Re: GREGORY/IZZARD
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 16:10 UTC (UK) »
I acn't recall now - I'll have to do some more research - I may have copied it down wrong but I normally keep records of where the source was - cheers
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jillruss
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Re: GREGORY/IZZARD
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 16:42 UTC (UK) »
There does semm to be a bit of a gap between the marriage date (1843) and the birth of the first child (Sarah 1851).

Where did you get the children's birthdates from - a census? Do you have any of the children's birth certs which actually name James & Sarah nee Izzard as the parents?

Jill
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Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
jillruss
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Re: GREGORY/IZZARD
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 17:02 UTC (UK) »
There's a likely looking entry for James & Sarah on Family Search 1881 census.

Deddington, Oxford
RG11  1510/88   Pg8

James Gregory  Head  61  born Clifton, Oxfordshire  agl labourer
Sarah Gregory  Wife   65  born Boddington, Northamptonshire
Clara Gregory  Granddaughter  4 born Clifton, Oxfordshire.

If this is them, looks like Sarah was born c. 1816 rather than 1830.

Jill
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See Surname Interests Table +
Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
Daisypetal
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Re: GREGORY/IZZARD
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 March 09 15:20 UTC (UK) »
Hi,

How about these two? Both found in Eton Registraion District in 1851.


1851  HO107/1718  f.594  p.17 & f.595  p.18  Farnham Royal, Buckinghamshire
Cipenham?

George DENTON    Head    M   38    Ag Lab      Oxon Mungwele?
Charlotte             Wife    M    29                     Bucks Burnham
Harriot                 Daur          9                         "  "        "  "
Emma                  Daur          7                         "  "        "  "
Elizabeth              Daur          5                         "  "        "  "

James GREGORY    Lodger    U    28    Ag Lab      Oxon Little Milton
John      "  "             "        U    25    Ag Lab          " "        "  "   



1851  HO107/1718  f.654  p.11  Burnham, Buckinghamshire
Cippenham Green

John BROOKS    Head    W    58    Ag Lab      Bucks West Wycombe
Sarah               Daur    S    21                        "  "    Burnham


Marriage
James GREGORY    Dec Q 1853    Eton    3a  533
Sarah BROOKS   
Charles BUNCE
Martha WEBB  with same details.

I can see a Charles and Martha BUNCE with young children in 1861 living in Hitchin (Eton Registration District), So it looks likely that James GREGORY married Sarah BROOKS.
 


That would mean that Sarah Jnr was born before the marriage, I can't find a Sarah BROOKS or GREGORY born abt. 1851 Eton anywhere Sad


1861  RG9/854  f.57  p.8  Burnham, Buckinghamshire
Cippenham

James GREGORY     Head    M    37    Ag Lab            Oxfordshire Little Milton
Sarah                   Wife    M    31    Chain Woman    Bucks Burnham
Sarah                   Daur          10    Scholar                "  "        "  "
George                  Son           7      "  "                     "  "        "  "
Emma                  Daur            5      "  "                     "  "        "  "
Charles                 Son           1                                "  "        "  "
/
Joseph RING      Lodger    U    25    Ag Lab                  "  "        "  "
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I think getting one of the childrens birth cerificates would be the next best move.


Regards
Daisy
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Re: GREGORY/IZZARD
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 March 09 15:35 UTC (UK) »
That's great stuff and blows my theory about Sarah Izzard out the water  Embarrassed
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