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Topic: Obtaining records from the Cape Town Archives (Read 778 times)
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RogFromBrum
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Hello Listers,
Does anyone know the best way of obtaining copies of records from the Cape Town Archives (http://www.national.archives.gov.za/index.htm)?
With some of the SA Archives, it's possible to order copies through The Genealogical Society of South Africa (http://www.eggsa.org/) but the society's website states "The Cape Town Archives Repository has banned mechanical copying by any means of documents in their care. We understand they will offer a copying service themselves".
The archive website seems to assume that researchers will turn up in person but that's not very practical if you're in the UK.
Cheers, Roger
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Parker, Nokes, Jackson, Hailstone, Murray, Fiske, Bodycot, Marshall Leicestershire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Yorkshire
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RogFromBrum
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Thanks Margaret,
How did your place your order and what method did you use to make payment? Was this all done by email?
Cheers, Roger
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Parker, Nokes, Jackson, Hailstone, Murray, Fiske, Bodycot, Marshall Leicestershire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Yorkshire
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RogFromBrum
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Thanks Margaret,
I'll investigate further. Thanks for your help.
Cheers, Roger
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Parker, Nokes, Jackson, Hailstone, Murray, Fiske, Bodycot, Marshall Leicestershire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Yorkshire
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LesDx
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Hi Roger,
Have you sussed it yet?
I'd appreciate the 'knowledge' if you have!
Les D.
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Leanne68
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Hi folks,
The email address to place orders for copies from the Cape Archives is :
Readroom@pgwc.gov.za
In your email request, list the file references (taken from the NAAIRS site), together with a request for either 1)a specific document from the file eg. Death Notice or 2) the entire contents of the file
The staff will email you a quotation and a release form. I signed this, scanned it and emailed it back to them. Payment is accepted only through international bank draft, posted to them with the original form. For some countries/banking systems this is a real pain in the behind to organise. I ended up asking a friend in South Africa to send a bank cheque on my behalf, together with the form which i emailed her.
The document copies are then posted to you. The quotation process takes some time, as does the posting off process. My last order took about 3 months, from start to finish.
best wishes Leanne in the Netherlands
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ENG - Bath, Blacker, Brockman, Brook, Bundock, Cains, Davenport+, Earle, Edmonds^,Fletcher, Hinds, Holehouse, Holliday+, Jackson*, Laver+, Leach*,Litt^, Oxenham, Pirie*, Radford, Robinson, Staples*, Starkey+, Tarr*, Toye, Warner*, Whiffen, White, Wooley, Wright IRE - Barnes, Caples, Hurst, McNamara, Quirk, Ryan, Towell, Wilson SCOT - Craig, Davidson, Hervie, Kerr, McCallum, McFarlane, Reid, Robinson, Thorburn, Wright
* 1820 to Cape of Good Hope ^ 1841-1853 to Vict, Aus + 1860's to QLD, Aus
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RogFromBrum
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Thanks Leanne,
That's very useful information.
Best regards, Roger
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LesDx
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Thanks Leanne. I'll get on to it right away and see what transpires!
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mrs griff
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Thanks Leanne, You have answered my question , which I had submitted in posting before your's which had no replies .
So thanks again Mrs Griff
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Leanne68
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Thomas - our 6 month old little branch
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Thanks Leanne, You're welcome. I'm sorry i didn't see your earlier request. The last weeks have been filled with Chicken-pox, limiting the amount of time i've had to *browse*.
Good luck with your requests to the archives.
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ENG - Bath, Blacker, Brockman, Brook, Bundock, Cains, Davenport+, Earle, Edmonds^,Fletcher, Hinds, Holehouse, Holliday+, Jackson*, Laver+, Leach*,Litt^, Oxenham, Pirie*, Radford, Robinson, Staples*, Starkey+, Tarr*, Toye, Warner*, Whiffen, White, Wooley, Wright IRE - Barnes, Caples, Hurst, McNamara, Quirk, Ryan, Towell, Wilson SCOT - Craig, Davidson, Hervie, Kerr, McCallum, McFarlane, Reid, Robinson, Thorburn, Wright
* 1820 to Cape of Good Hope ^ 1841-1853 to Vict, Aus + 1860's to QLD, Aus
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LesDx
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Progress report #1...
Nice email with disclaimer form to complete and send back for them to come up with a quotation. Form completed and returned.
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LesDx
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Progress report #2...
Success! The system worked - eventually.
As Leanne said, the payment was requested by international bank draft (why don't they get a credit card machine?). But, for such a small amount (R25), that was ridiculous. So I sent R40 in notes and that worked.
As you can see, however, everything seems to take two to three months there! And, although the papers didn't add much knowledge, it was great to get actual copies of them.
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stonechat
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my dad's uncle Albert DOUGLAS worked IN S Africa - I think probably Cape Town
He almost certainly died there
There are some estate papers dated 1956 - i have seen a visit to the UK in 1955
ths is a man who reported his occupation on the passenger list to uk in 1950 as "rich"
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stonechat
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Am I right that I can't order through the genalogical society?
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Douglas, Varnden, Joy(i)ce Surrey, Clarke Northants/Hunts, Pullen Worcs/Herefords, Holmes Birmingham/USA/Canada/Australia, Jackson Cheshire/Yorkshire, Lomas Cheshire, Lee Yorkshire, Cocks Lancashire, Leah Cheshire, Cook Yorkshire, Catlow Lancashire NOTE I have moved my website to http://www.cotswan.com
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