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Linda from Murton
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Susan G. Robertson of Peterhead
« on: Tuesday 03 March 09 22:50 UTC (UK) »

Please forgive me if I have posted on the wrong board.

Great Grandfather Charles Gouch (born Norfolk) married Susan G. (we think Robertson).  Susan was born in Peterhead in approximately 1825.  We can only surmise her surname was Robertson because this was the middle name given to her sons.

We havent been able to trace her marriage to Charles Gouch, although their first son was born at North Shields, Northumberland (another fishing port) in June 1850.

Would be extremely grateful if anyone can find information regarding Susan on Scottish Census.  If it helps her children were called John Joseph; Mary Jane; James Robertson Goauch/ George Robertson Gouch; Sarah Ann and Maria.

Looking forward to your response.

Thank you.

Linda
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Re: Susan G. Robertson of Peterhead
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 22:59 UTC (UK) »

Hi

The 1851 census for Durham shows Susan b Northumberland - North Shields

Charles Gouch 29 rail labourer b Norfolk
Susan 25 b North Shields Northumberland
John Joseph 1 b North Shields
HO107; Piece: 2395; Folio: 37; Page: 18

1871 just shows Scotland
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Re: Susan G. Robertson of Peterhead
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 23:11 UTC (UK) »

Hi, Many thanks for responding.  It was a later census which indicated her birth place as Peterhead.  I've only just realized that if I send away for John Joseph' birth certificate it should give  her maiden name.  Must be tired or I would have thought of that one ages ago.  However, I still think its Robertson because it doesnt feature in any of the Gouch names.

Linda
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Re: Susan G. Robertson of Peterhead
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 23:29 UTC (UK) »

I don't know whether you have already seen these IGI entries

Sarah Ann Gouch   Birth:  19 DEC 1861   
Christening:  15 JAN 1862   St Hildas, South Shields, Durham,    Father:  Charles Gouch    Mother:  Susan Gouch 

Maria Gouch   Birth:  01 MAY 1865   
Christening:  14 JUN 1865   St Hildas, South Shields, Durham, 
Father:  Charles Gouch    Mother:  Susan Gouch

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Re: Susan G. Robertson of Peterhead
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 23:33 UTC (UK) »

I have just checked the 1841 for Peterhead but there is only one entry for Susan Robertson and she was aged 60
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Re: Susan G. Robertson of Peterhead
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 March 09 10:02 UTC (UK) »

CaroleW - Many, many thanks for that detail for Sarah Ann and Maria.  You must have struck lucky with the LDS because whenever I have tried its never been the week for the "Gs".

Happy hunting.

Linda
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Re: Susan G. Robertson of Peterhead
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 March 09 15:11 UTC (UK) »

Hi Linda and Carol  Smiley

Could this be the marriage for Charles and Susan I wonder, from FreeBMD:

Marriages 4th Qrt 1850   

Charles Gooch         Depwade   Vol.  13   Pg. 107    
Susan Wilson          Depwade   Vol.  13   Pg. 107    

Mary Quantrup    and a Hannah Wilson also showing on the page.

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Linda from Murton
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Re: Susan G. Robertson of Peterhead
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 March 09 16:41 UTC (UK) »

Hello Monica, wow that was a blast of hope.  Unfortunately Charles and Susan's eldest son John Joseph Gouch was born during the June quarter of 1850.  A couple of quarters before this   marriage.  It did look very promising though.

Thank you for taking the time to look.

Kind regards

Linda
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Re: Susan G. Robertson of Peterhead
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 12 March 09 13:48 UTC (UK) »

Update:  Birth Certificate for one of Charles and Susan's children (George) came this morning.  George was born near South Shields and his mother is listed as Susan Gouch formerly ROBINSON.

Still having no luck finding either Charles and Susan's marriage.  A later Census said that Susan was born at Peterhead, Scotland approx 1825.

Wondered if anyone can please help.

Linda
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Re: Susan G. Robertson of Peterhead
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 12 March 09 23:42 UTC (UK) »

I have checked the Scottish 1841 for Susan Robinson but none match her profile

I cannot find an English marriage between 1841-1851 so wonder if they may have married in Scotland
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Re: Susan G. Robertson of Peterhead
« Reply #10 on: Friday 13 March 09 00:11 UTC (UK) »

Carol

I looked again at this earlier. The only only possibility I am seeing is a SARAH Robertson in North Shields with family, she is not with the family by 1851:

1841: HO107; Piece 825; Book: 9;
1851: HO107; Piece: 2409; Folio: 346;

This family shows as born in Peterhead, Aberdeen in the 1851 census.

What worries me though is that Sarah is not a variant of Susan that I am aware of  Undecided Still not seeing a possible marriage with a first name Sarah though.

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Re: Susan G. Robertson of Peterhead
« Reply #11 on: Friday 13 March 09 00:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi Monica

There is no marriage entry for a Charles Gouch between 1841-1851 either.  I had hoped if I found one - there would be an uneven number of males to females which would solve the problem.

I did find this 1841 entry though for Yorkshire but cannot find them on the 1851 at the moment

Charles Gouch 20 ag lab not b in county
Mary 20 b in county
Elizabeth 3mths b in county
HO107 Piece 1330/9 Folio 9 Page 13
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Re: Susan G. Robertson of Peterhead
« Reply #12 on: Friday 13 March 09 00:33 UTC (UK) »

A few possible christenings for them on IGI:

1. ELIZABETH GOUCH  Christening: 07 MAR 1841 Braithwell, Yorkshire
2. JOHN GOUCH Christening: 29 JAN 1843 Braithwell, Yorkshire
3. MARY ANN GOUCH Christening: 10 MAY 1846 St Peter, Brighton, Sussex..a maybe because of the change of location

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Re: Susan G. Robertson of Peterhead
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 02 July 09 15:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi Linda

I think the person you are looking for is Susan Gordon Robertson who was baptised on 23rd April 1826 in Peterhead. Her father was Joseph Robertson, a carpenter. Witnesses at the baptism were Joseph and William Robertson.
It seems very likely that Susan's mother was Mary Ogston who married Joseph Robertson, a carpenter on 23rd December 1821 in Peterhead.

Susan had brothers: Joseph - baptised 2nd October 1822 in Peterhead
                                 John Ogston - baptised  24th June 1824 in Aberdeen
                                 James - baptised ?   born about 1828
                                 Frederick - baptised ?   born about 1830
                                 George - baptised 1832 in Arbroath.

In 1822 and 1824 Susan's father was described as a carpenter but by1832 he was a coastguard.
In the 1841 Census, when the family are living in Milbourne Place in North Shields it looks like mother Mary is described as "sailor's wife" (husband Joseph is not at home).
It's a mystery as to why Susan has been recorded as Sarah in 1841 but it may just be an error by the recorder.

Further evidence to link Susan to this family is that in 1873 her brother Frederick named his 2nd daughter Susan Gordon Robertson.

Carolyn

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Linda from Murton
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Re: Susan G. Robertson of Peterhead
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 02 July 09 15:31 UTC (UK) »

Carolyn001,

Wow, this is fantastic.  Thank you so very much.  I see that this is your first posting in this forum and is a brilliant posting.

Can I ask how your managed to get so much information on Susan, are you related?

Again thank you this has broken down a huge wall.

Kind regards

Linda
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