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Topic: Louisa and George Biddlecombe in 1871 (Read 936 times)
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Molloyboy
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I never thought to look beyond middlesex for the marriage of John Packer and Sarah Humphries, So thanks Dev.
You wanna be careful Devis. You're so sharp you'll cut yourself.
Again my thanks to Devis, Lizdb and Louisa Maud. Typing out census info, I call that action above and beyond the call of duty.
PS. I've already ordered Louisa Packers Birth cert. I've always assumed Liz that 19 in 1861 should be 13.
PPS. Guess I'll have to order Louisa and George Biddlecombes marriage certificate now, along with John Packers and Sarah Humphries.
Dan
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louisa maud
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Thanks Dan, hopefully all will be revealled if you let us know the outcome of the marr cert which is what you originally wanted
good luck
LM
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukGarner, Marylebone, Paddington, Northolt, Ilford Garner, Devon Garner New Zealand Parkinson St Pancras, Lethbridge, Paddington, Slough Jenkins Marylebone, Paddington Tindal Marylebone, Paddington Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London Southam Marylebone, Paddington Bragg Lambeth, 1800's Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent, Canada (Toronto) Coveney, Kent, Lambeth Sondes, Kent, London |
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Molloyboy
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George Biddlecombe - Louisa Packer marriage cert.
John Packer - Sarah Humphries marriage cert
Louisa Packer birth cert
All ordered. I'll get back to you.
Dan
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lizdb
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Hopefully the George Bid/Louisa marriage might give us more clues about George too. I cant see a miner in MArylebone - no mines there! And if he was using his mining skills on something else, like digging out for the Underground, he wouldnt call himself a miner, he would call himself something else wouldnt he?
Be interesting to see his occupation at marriage, and his dad's name and occupation too.
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Molloyboy
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Woohoo, just got the 3 certificates in question.
Details of the marriage of Louisa Packer and George Biddlecombe.
Married 5th Feb 1860 at Trinity church, Grays Inn Road, Middlesex.
He was 32, she was 21.
Georges father is listed as James, a laborer. No mention of a mother.
Lizdb, Louisa Packer was born in Park Lane, Christchurch, Marylebone on 3rd Dec. 1937 although the birth wasn't registered until 2nd Jan. 1838, so that means in the 1851 census she was 13/14, not 19, as listed.
Dan
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lizdb
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and George's occupation on his marriage cert?
and are they spinster/bachelor?
witnesses?
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Molloyboy
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I've found a George Biddlecombe in St Pancras in the 1851 census. Admittedly, he was born in Fordingbridge, Hampshire, but he was a 22 year old soldier at the time. Just abut the right age for the marriage to Louisa and it might explain why they can't be found on some census'.
What site is good for pre WWI military history?
Dan
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lizdb
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Thewhole cert might be removed for copyright reasons.
Before that happens lets note:
Marriage at Trinity Grays Inn Rd. 5th Feb 1860
George age 32 bachelor Miner father is James Biddlecombe labourer
Louisa age 21 spinster no occ father John Packer basket maker
both living Grays Inn Road
witnesses John and Sarah Packer
neither bride nor groom could sign name both "x"'s
So at least it is all comnig together and we have the right basket weaving family ...
But with George describing himself as a Miner in Feb 1860, and still doing so in 1861 census I would be intrigued to know what he was mining!
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lizdb
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Just been googling -
According to this
http://www.kxrlg.org.uk/history/timeline.pdf
(you have to scroll down a lot to get to around 1859/60)
the Metropolitan line was started around this time. I reckon George was involved in that, and was really a navvy - but had been a miner up north, and "once a miner always a miner"
If you look through the timeline I sent abovr it mentions Brill Street market and Grays Inn Rd - 2 addresses that the elusive Biddlesombes were at in the short while we have found trace of them!
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jennifer c
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Hi 1861 census 4 Canterbury Row Old Kent Road Peckham RG9/385/37
John Packer Head 52 Basket Maker born Sandwich Kent
Sarah Wife 52 ? Kent
Frederick Son 18 Blacksmith ? Kent
John Son 14 " " Camberwell
George Son 9 Camberwell
Jennifer
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lizdb
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Thought I had a straw to clutch at when I found the death of a George Bittlestone of right age (ish) in 1869 in London
But, no, when I checked 1861 there is a perfectrly good george Bittlestone of the right age for the death in the area - so that death will be him, not a mis spelt Biddlecombe ....
will keep thinking!
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louisa maud
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Going back a few messages back, what about London Underground Miners, try
Timeline on Wikipedia which lists dates of when these were being dug
Louisa Maud
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukGarner, Marylebone, Paddington, Northolt, Ilford Garner, Devon Garner New Zealand Parkinson St Pancras, Lethbridge, Paddington, Slough Jenkins Marylebone, Paddington Tindal Marylebone, Paddington Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London Southam Marylebone, Paddington Bragg Lambeth, 1800's Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent, Canada (Toronto) Coveney, Kent, Lambeth Sondes, Kent, London |
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