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1891 - Absolutely desperate!
« on: Tuesday 15 February 05 15:37 GMT (UK) »

Can somebody please do a looking up for 17 Victoria Street, Gateshead on the 1891 Census please.

Have managed to track down that my family were living there in August 1891 on the burial records of one of their children. Gatehead Cemetary Department have managed to find the records for me.

Hopefully I should find my Atkinson family there.

I would be really, really grateful if somebody could help me on this.

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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 February 05 15:41 GMT (UK) »

Hello KA

Do you have any forenames and approx ages to help narrow the search?

thanks

Paul
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Re: 1891 - Absolutely desperate!
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 February 05 15:47 GMT (UK) »

Paul

James and Caroline Atkinson (parents) He is a hairdresser,but he is dying of TB, so may not be there.
They will have a Minnie b. 1886
Caroline b. 1890
Margaret b. 1888
Possibly a Robert, b. 1885

Had countless name searches, and they  have never shown up.  Not even a sniff.  Thought they had slipped through the net.  But now I've been able to find an address for 1891, I'm hoping that may show something on that.

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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 February 05 16:00 GMT (UK) »

Hi


Not having much joy!
Do you have them on any other censuses?

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Re: 1891 - Absolutely desperate!
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 February 05 16:22 GMT (UK) »

I don't know if this will help you but I notaced you said some one had TB .There was a outbreak in Newcastle of TB in the lait 1800s and a lot of families were taken out of there homes and put in Isolation to try and halt it there were two  Fever hospitals I think the big one was Holy Jesus Hospital it was at the bottom of the Tyne bridge
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Re: 1891 - Absolutely desperate!
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 February 05 16:26 GMT (UK) »

Not really.

The reason this family are so important to me is that James and Caroline were not married in 1881.  And he died in 1898.  I can find some of the family, scattered in 1901.  But I really wanted to find them on the 1891 as it would be the only one where they were together.

I was informed that the 1891 could be searched by address?  So, as nothing was showing for their names, I moved onto finding a 1891 address for them.

Is that address not showing up at all?  If not, perhaps they did slip the census net.

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 15 February 05 16:34 GMT (UK) »

Hi Caroline

I can;t search the version of 1891 that I have by address, only by enumeration district.

Do you have a surname for Caroline, if they were not married?  Were the scattered family going under the Atkinson name?

I can't find a right age match for any of the children, even looking for mistranscriptions such as Aitchison etc.  If James wasn;t with them, maybe they were transcribed under Caroline's surname?

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Re: 1891 - Absolutely desperate!
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 15 February 05 16:56 GMT (UK) »

Hi,
I typed in Victoria St in the keyword field and I found a 17 Victoria Street, Gateshead, Durham. However, there were no Atkinson's there. I don't know if there are any other Victoria Streets in Gateshead.

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Re: 1891 - Absolutely desperate!
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 15 February 05 16:59 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

Ignore my last post - it was the 1881 census, not the 1891 I was looking in.
I'll see if it works on the 1891 as well.
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 15 February 05 18:36 GMT (UK) »

Richard,

Thank you, I would be grateful.

Paul,

James G Atkinson married Caroline Burr in October 1881, so I have no reason to suspect they would be under her maiden name.  However, as I can't find them under Atkinson, anything is possible.

Audrey,

I thought your reply on Fever Hospitals was interesting.  But I would have thought that they were extremely rigourous with their census collection.  But thanks for that - I will have to look into it.  It's nice to have some 'background'.

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 15 February 05 18:40 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

Although the 'keyword' field did not work the same way in the 1891, I took Paul's suggestions and noted some of the other families living at the same address in 1881. I was then able to find them in 1891. Unfortunately, there are no Atkinsons or similar at that address, or in the houses next door.

At 17 Victoria Street, Gateshead are the Hamiltons, the Hobsons and the Wind familes.

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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 15 February 05 18:54 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Richard,

Another theory dashed!  Thanks for trying.  At least I have found another place where they are not.  By this process of elimination I should catch up with them in about 30 years time. I'll try for Caroline's birth certificate (she died at one year old) - maybe that will have an address on it that will yield a result.

It's almost as if they don't want to be found.

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Re: 1891 - Absolutely desperate!
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 15 February 05 19:31 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

You mentioned the marriage in 1881 to Caroline Burr - is this it ? It has an unusual spelling :

Achinson, James Grieves 1881 December Marriages Gateshead
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Re: 1891 - Absolutely desperate!
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 15 February 05 20:08 GMT (UK) »

Richard,

Yes, that's it.  But it was a mistranscription in the register.  Their name was actually Atkinson, and it is Atkinson on the certificate.

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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 15 February 05 20:23 GMT (UK) »

Were they all born in Gateshead?

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