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Re: 1891 - Absolutely desperate!
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 15 February 05 20:29 GMT (UK) »

James was born in Newcastle upon Tyne (Hanover Street to be precise).

His wife, Caroline, was born Gateshead (57 Church Street).

As far as the known children were concerned.

Minnie was christened St Nicholas, Newcastle, 1886
Margaret Jane was born Gateshead and christened South Shields 1888
Caroline was born 1890 in South Shields.  However died in August 1891 in Gateshead.

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KA
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Re: 1891 - Absolutely desperate!
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 15 February 05 23:25 GMT (UK) »

Hi KA

Despite having (I think) found Caroline in 1871 and 1881, it didn't add much to the picture!

This is a real toughie and unless she's hiding under a hideous mistranscription somewhere its hard to know where to take this forward.  There were only 43 Carolines showing as born Gateshead / living Gateshead in 1891, and of these none was even a close age match to your Caroline (only 3 were over 19!)

Was James a jobbing hairdresser or did he have his own shop?  If they were reasonably well-to-do, could he and his family have gone abroad for a spell for some purer air?

There's no obvious sign of any of the children in 1891 either.

You say you have found the family, scattered, in 1901.  Does this include Caroline?

Having spent an hour or two puzzling this one, and having consumed more than my usual quota of red wine, I think I have a little appreciation of frustrations you must have faced with this family! Smiley

It might be worth collecting all you have got into one posting on a new thread, and hope that the 'big guns' on Rootschat can crack it!  I don't feel up to the task I'm afraid!

It might be worth examining the later material you've got again.   With such a plethora of Atkinsons in the area its a tricky one.

Where does James show up as a hairdresser?  What is your source for him having TB?  Where does the 'probable' Robert come into things?

Maybe James is hiding out there, but he's not making himself obvious yet!

Good luck and best wishes

Paul

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Re: 1891 - Absolutely desperate!
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 16 February 05 08:12 GMT (UK) »

Paul,

Sorry to have driven you to drink.  I have consumed a fair amount whilst tackling this family too.

I appreciate your comments.  Just to answer a couple of your questions.

James is a hairdresser in 1881 census, on a son's birth certificate, and on his death certificate.  His siblings seem to have gone into manual labour, so I assume his TB tendencies were showing early, and a 'lighter' career was chosen.  Several other Atkinsons have been found in Gateshead with the same profession.  Don't know if he was connected and 'invited' to join.

Certainly not enough money to move to 'clearer air'.  Audrey's suggestion of an isolation hospital would be nearer the mark I think. TB as cause of death is on his death cert.

Robert appears in 1901 Census.  Caroline is widow and head of house.  Robert b. 1885 and Georgina b. 1895 are down as son and daughter.  But I can't find the IGI records for these.  Whereas I can for Minnie, Margaret and Jane.  In the 1901 Minnie is in a 'special school', I think I've found Margaret, age 13 living elsewhere, and Caroline has died.


Going back to Caroline (wife) Burr.
In 1871 she was with her aunt and uncle, Caroline and Richard Burr, in Durham.
In 1881 she was a servant in Gateshead.  Don't know if it was these you found.

Anyway, thank for your help, time, trouble, and the donation of wine.

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KA


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