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scully
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Bridge/ 1841/51/61 Census
« on: Saturday 07 March 09 16:17 UTC (UK) »

Hi ,
Can anyone help looking for the following family in the 1841/51/61/ Census in Oldbury. All children seem to be born in Oldbury.

James Bridge & Jane Simpson, married at St Thomas Church, Worcester
Children-- Edward Bridge -b, about 1833
                 William  Bridge- b, ------ 1835               
                  James  Bridge - b,------ 1837
                  Ann M Bridge- b, ------- 1843
                 Mary J Bridge- b,--------  1845
                  Joseph Bridge- b, -------  1848
                 Elizabeth Bridge-b, ------- 1853


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kennyg
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Re: Bridge/ 1841/51/61 Census
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07 March 09 20:25 UTC (UK) »

Here's 1851;

James Bridge     37, ? ? Funder? and Publican, Bourne? Herefordshire
Jane Bridge    36
Edward Bridge    18
William H Bridge    16
James Bridge    14
Ann M Bridge    7
Mary J Bridge    5
Joseph Bridge    2
Ann Nain    18

All others born in Oldbury

Address appears to be Birmingham ?, Oldbury Green

HO107; Piece: 2024; Folio: 432; Page: 10
   
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kennyg
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Re: Bridge/ 1841/51/61 Census
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07 March 09 20:31 UTC (UK) »

1861 shows;

James Bridge     48, Glazier and Retail?, Portway, Staffs
Jane Bridge    47
James Bridge    23, Fitter
Ann Maria Bridge    17
Mary Jane Bridge    15
Joseph Bridge    12
Elizabeth Bridge    7

Living at Birmingham Street on Oldbury Green

RG9; Piece: 2022; Folio: 79; Page: 14
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scully
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Re: Bridge/ 1841/51/61 Census
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 07 March 09 21:06 UTC (UK) »

Hi Kennyg,
Thanks very much for the information. If you don' mind do you think there's any chance of finding them in the 1871 Census, if they were in the same place. On the marriage of their son James it seems his father was still alive as it do's not say (Deceased) on it. James their son married  Elizabeth Roberts at St Pauls Church, Parish of West Smetwick, District  Kings Norton on the 22/5/1871. I was just wandering if James was still living with his parents.
Thanks once again for your help.

Scully
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Re: Bridge/ 1841/51/61 Census
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 07 March 09 22:31 UTC (UK) »

Hi Scully,

Looks like James Sr wasn't around in 1871.  I've found James Jr with his Mother, Jane, listed as a Widow;

Jane Bridge     57, Laundress
James Bridge    33, Grinder
Joseph Bridge    22, Machine
Elizabeth Bridge 17, Dressmaker

Living in Hawthorne Street, Harborne, Smethwick

RG10; Piece: 3088; Folio: 96; Page: 29;

Kenny

 
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kennyg
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Re: Bridge/ 1841/51/61 Census
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 07 March 09 22:34 UTC (UK) »

There's a death registration in Q2 of 1868 for a James Bridge, born about 1813.  Registration is in King's Norton Vol 6c, page 238.

Looks like your James Sr.

Kenny
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Re: Bridge/ 1841/51/61 Census
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 March 09 11:53 UTC (UK) »

Hi Kenny,
Thanks very much for finding the census  & death. Have you ever come across the father being dead but not saying so on the marriage of a child before.

Scully
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Re: Bridge/ 1841/51/61 Census
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 08 March 09 13:08 UTC (UK) »

Possibilities include Registrar not picking up on local accents and getting it factually wrong or Father and family becoming estranged (willingly or otherwise) as work is sought more widely during times of recession/depression etc. 

Perhaps registration was after marriage and it was the wife who did it and hadn't met/didn't know F-in-Law was dead?  Have you got the marriage cert?  Did both parties sign?

Did it not suit JB Jr to admit Dad was dead?

Possibilities endless!!

I think the 1871 census is very clear - if they are the right family (and they fit in a number of ways) she's clearly widowed.

Only way to be sure it's the right JB is to pay for the death certificate.

Kenny
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Re: Bridge/ 1841/51/61 Census
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 08 March 09 15:10 UTC (UK) »

 Hi Kenny,
I do have the marriage Certificate James married to Elizabeth  in 1871. James sighned and Elizabeth made her mark. I think you're right i need to get the death certificate for his father., as you said it is the right family. Thanks for your help.

Scully
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