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Hi all I appear to have come to a dead end. My gr gr grandad married Mary Jane Hall on the 8th October 1855 at St Martins in Birmingham. I have the marraige cert and know her father was Edward but that is where my trail ends. I think she was born about 1837 but all the marriage cert says is "full age" and i have no idea where the family come from.
Any pointers would be appreciated.
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Alan
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not found her / them on the 1861 ? - whats your ancestors forenames and other vital stats - I'll have a look 
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Ok thanks it's much appreciated.
Mary Jane Hall b. 1837c
Father Edward Hall - Mother ??
Married William Rhodes on 8th October 1855
Williams parents were Samuel & Elizabeth
Thats all i know, sorry.
Alan
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Was your William born c1835 +/- 2 in the Dudley area ?
Theres one of only 3 William R's there with the correct parents in 1851.
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Yes he was born in Dudley about 1836
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This is the only William Rhodes in the Birm' area (albeit Aston) in 1861 - wife Jane (maybe she preferred it to Mary ? ), and oldest child born after 1855 ... William was a Glass Blower as was the lad seen with father Samuel in Dudley 1851 ....
1861 - RG9/2178; Folio: 129; Page: 27 - Aston, Duddeston
Miles Square
William Rhodes 24 Head Glass Blower Dudley
Jane Rhodes 25 Wife Birmingham
George Rhodes 5 son Staffs, Durleston
Clara Rhodes 1 dau Warks, Birm'
Edward Loynes 38 Uncle Chair Maker Birm'
Thomas A Loynes 11 cousin do
Arthur Loynes 8
do do
(Back to Mary Jane in 1871 - PoB Brum)
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Thats them. Its Mary or Jane that is causing me problems as i can't find her prior to her marraige in 1855. The 1861 census puts her age as 25 so year of birth would be 1836, but i can't find her anywhere. It's soooooo frustrating. 
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me neither - not in 1841/51 with a father Edward any ways, and trying her as both Mary and Jane.
might be a frabricated Dad's name, or she was someones stepdau ?
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Is this her,
MARY JANE HALL
Birth, 22 FEB 1836.
Christening, 22 FEB 1837. Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick,
Parents:
EDWARD HALL.
JANE.
EDWARD HALL.
JANE LOYNES.
Marriage, 02 JUN 1829. Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick,
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Loynes was indeed her Uncle's name (1861 census) - I did look for him successfully in 1851, but the lass wasnt there.
Good result !
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 That certainly appears to be her, DoB is about right as is fathers name and the surname Loynes appears in the family. Don't know where you got it from but thanks so much for your help.
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Other children of Edward and Jane Hall.
JANE HALL.
Birth, 02 SEP 1829.
Christening, 09 NOV 1829. Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick,
ANN ELIZABETH HALL.
Birth, 02 JUN 1831
Christening, 26 DEC 1831. Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick,
ALFRED HALL.
Birth, 11 SEP 1833.
Christening, 04 DEC 1833. Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick,
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Brilliant stuff, just put the IGI into my bookmarks for later.
Thanks again
Alan
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