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MonicaLesl
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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 11 March 09 09:30 UTC (UK) »
Stuart

If you are contacting the Heritage Services (  Smiley I like this bit from their site: Place names on maps have been extensively indexed), you might also want to enquire about kirk session minutes that may provide more details surrounding the birth and that baptism for Elizabeth. The Kirk members may have had more to say....!

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 11 March 09 15:14 UTC (UK) »
Monica,

Thanks.  All taken on board!  We'll see how extensive their indexing is soon Grin.

Stuart
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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 20:39 UTC (UK) »
I've been to the Moray Heritage Centre today.  Whilst they may have extensively indexed place names that were on maps, it appears that 'Armydykes' is not on any map!  That said, the people there - both working and carrying out there own research - were most helpful.  I had a look on the OPR for Duffus and the names detailed above all appear to refer to the same place - the Heritage Centre rekons that the 'Airndykes' is mis-transcribed; he intends to change it to 'Armydykes'.  He's still not sure where it is though!

I suspect that means that this thread has run its course.

Thanks for all your help.

Stuart
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MonicaLesl
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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please - COMPLETE - thanks
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 23:19 UTC (UK) »
....Anything on the Kirk Session minutes  Roll Eyes?

Monica  Smiley
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please - COMPLETE - thanks
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 23:25 UTC (UK) »
I've not seen them yet.  I'll save that information for another time Wink

Stuart
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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please - COMPLETE - thanks
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 20:53 UTC (UK) »
They don't have the Kirk Session minutes at the Heritage centre - they are held in Edinburgh, so will have to wait another time.

Guess that I'm finished now!

Roxy
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MonicaLesl
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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please - COMPLETE - thanks
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 21:17 UTC (UK) »
Always leave something something to come back for Steve  Wink Pity though...!

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 29 April 09 20:54 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: PrueM on Sunday 08 March 09 22:11 UTC (UK)
baptd the 8th [...] (doesn't look like 'inst' but probably the only thing that fits).
It's currt, short for 'current', i.e. 'this month'. Means the same as inst.

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The dates are a bit weird - not sure how 28th May 1802 fits in  Huh
I think it relates to the next entry.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes; LESLIE, Mortlach; MENDUM, England; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOREY, New Monkland; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Lethnot and Navar; YOUNG, Keith
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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 29 April 09 20:59 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: flst on Sunday 08 March 09 22:33 UTC (UK)
Looking at an old map of the area I came across a place near Bishopmill called Ardgye. Could this be what we're looking for?

No. You're looking for somewhere in the parish of Duffus, and Ardgye is in the parish of Alves.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes; LESLIE, Mortlach; MENDUM, England; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOREY, New Monkland; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Lethnot and Navar; YOUNG, Keith
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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 29 April 09 21:03 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: stuartroxy on Sunday 08 March 09 22:43 UTC (UK)
I will try to visit the (former) East End Primary School when they open again for the summer.

The Moray Local Heritage Centre in East End Primary School is open all year round. It is closed only on Wednesdays in winter.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes; LESLIE, Mortlach; MENDUM, England; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOREY, New Monkland; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Lethnot and Navar; YOUNG, Keith
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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please - COMPLETE - thanks
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 30 April 09 17:46 UTC (UK) »
Forfarian,

Thanks.  I can accept 'currt' and I agree that it's not Ardgye - still can't find it though!  I have also been to the Heritage Centre.

Stuart
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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please - COMPLETE - thanks
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 30 April 09 18:30 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: stuartroxy on Thursday 30 April 09 17:46 UTC (UK)
I agree that it's not Ardgye - still can't find it though! 

I went right through the places in the 1841 census transcription and there is nowhere which looks even remotely like it. Nor in Matheson's 'Place Names of Elginshire', or the Statistical Account of Scotland. I did wonder if it could be Airydykes or similar rather than Armydykes, but it's a bit academic, really.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes; LESLIE, Mortlach; MENDUM, England; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOREY, New Monkland; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Lethnot and Navar; YOUNG, Keith
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Re: Elizabeth Murray birth certificate decipher - help please - COMPLETE - thanks
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 30 April 09 21:55 UTC (UK) »
Thanks again.  I don't think that I am destined to find Armydykes.

Never mind.

Stuart
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