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Templar75
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I have just completed the list of headstones and inscriptions at Temple Village burial ground in Midlothian Scotland.
I have also completed the burials from the 1888 - 1996 burial register on the site, I have photos of all the headstones though some are lying on their fronts around 7 of them. anyone who wants information or photo just get in touch.
I hope to start on the Old Parish Registers soon.
Cheers.
Archie.
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dottyaussie
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Hi Archie I am new to this site and just read your message. Do you have any CORNWALL's or CLELLANDS in your records ? If you do I would dearly love to know them also any photo's would be like all my christmasses come at once 
Sandra CORNWALL
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Templar75
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Hi Sandra,
I hope this will help you in your family quest.
Stobbs village is in Midlothian but was once known as Edinburghshire, Stobbs had the first Gunpowder Mill in Scotland, the name Stobbs means Stopping Place.
You will be able to zoom in on the photo of the tombstone and read most of what is on it, the other photo shows the tombstone to the right of the small wall next to the stone that has fallen.
The first is the inscription from the tombstone which is situated at ( Lair 115 ).
FIRST
Erected by Thomas Cornwall in memory of his Father Richard Cornwall who died 17th February 1826, also his daughter Mary who died 29th December ---- aged 3 years. His son Thomas died 26th June 1810 aged 11 years. His daughter Mary who died 1st August 1856 aged 19 years. Also Mary Knight his Mother died February 15th 1858 aged 86 years, also Thomas Cornwall who died 23rd September 1863 aged 63 years.
The ones below are from the Temple burial book ( 1888-1996 ).
SECOND
Agnes Cornwall died at 47 years at Stobbs Mills on the 6th January 1896 ( Lair 49 ) there is a stone lying on its front with trees growing arond it where they are buried, I am not allowed to lift it.
THIRD
John Cornwall in 1844 possibly at Stobbs ( No other details ).
John Cornwall died at Stobbs Mills on the 18th February 1901.
Janet Cornwall died aged 79 years at Powder Mills Cottages Stobbs on the 22nd July 1912.
Richard Cornwall died aged 60 years at Gowkshill, Cockpen ,Midlothian on the 20th September 1918.
( The above are buried in Lair 62 there is no stone )
FOURTH
Richard Cornwall died at Muirs Park Newbattle Dalkeith ( No date ).
Janet Cornwall died at Dalkeith, possibly the same place as Richard ( No date ).
( Both are buried in Lair 115 same one as first entry )
Best regards.
Archie.
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Maggie J Ingram
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Hi Archie,
Thank you for the headstone photograph of the Cornwall family in Temple Kirkyard. (You previously sent one of my Ramage ancestors). My 4th G Grandparents Richard Cornwall b. 1769 West Molesey, Surrey, married to Mary Knight of Middlesex came to Scotland in the late 1790's to work at the Gunpowder factory - he was killed in an explosion at the factory on 17th February 1825. His son Thomas Cornwall b.1800 Stobmills, my 3rd G Grandfather, died in 1863 from an injured spleen, and his son Richard Cornwall b. 1826 at Stobmills, my 2nd G Grandfather, died in 1893 after being struck by a locomotive on the viaduct bridge while working on the line. All three ancestors died a horrible death.
Inserting the story below.
Regards,
Maggie
Dreadful Explosion.
A Full and Particular Account of that Dreadful
Explosion of Gunpowder, at Stobbs Mills, on
Thursday last the 17th February, 1825, at a few
minutes past Eight in the moratng, by which two
Men and a Horse lost their lives, and several others
were severely injured.
About ten minutes after eight yesterday morning the inhabitants
of the odjacent villages of Stobbs and Gore Bridge, and neighbour-
hood, were thrown into great alarm, in consequence of an explosi-
son of gunpowder, which tock place at one of the branches of the
extensive manufactory which Messrs. Hitchener and Hunter have
for many years carried on at Stabbsmills. The accident is one of
such a nature as precludes all possibility of ascertaining how it
originated, which, of course, must, must ever remain matter of con.
jecture ; all that is known is, that a man named Walter Thomson
had gone with a cart loaded with powder from one of the mills to.
the charge-house, a kind of temporary store house in which the
powder is kept, until there is room in the stove or drying house to
receive it, and nearly adjoins the later, and this person must have
been in the act of unloading the cart at the moment the explosion
accurred. Fortunately, however, the sufferers have been few, ts it
is ascertained that Thomson ( the carter ) and an old man named
Richard Cornwall employed at the stove, were the only individuals
who lost their "lives ; their bodies were blown to atoms, and but
small portions of them have been picked up, at great distances from
each other, and in such a condition as rendered it impossible to dis-
tinguish to which of the two they belonged ; the head and neck of
one was reoonised from the neckloth about it.
The horse was thrown a considerable distancet and some of the
barrels of powder which had been placed on the cart were blown in
the air, and exploded over the heads of the ploughmen in the fields
The materials of the stove house and charge house, which are both
raised to the foundation, are lying in directions, extending to a eir-
cumferance of at least half a mile, covering the fields like flocks of
birds. So great was the concussion that in the villages scarcely a
window has escaped its ravages ; that of Stobbsmills, although nea-
rest the scene of the explosion, has suffered least, but in Gore Bridde
many houses have not a whole pane left, and the roofs present a
most picturesque appearance ; some entirely unroofed on one side,
and from most of the others the tiles are moved down so as some-
what to resemble a sieve. The meeting-house at Gore Bridge has
not only suffered in glass, but the astrigals of several of the win-
dows have gone alone with the more fragile materials: even at the
farm house of Newhouses at leasl three quarters of a mile from the
mills, many of the panes were broken and the doors of some of the
houses were burst open. We haxe heard too that the glass in the
hot-houses at Vogrie, three miles distant were broken, and part of
the ceiling of the house of Fountainhall was thrown down. The
concussion was quite terrific in Dalkeith, four miles distant, and af-
fected the buildings so much as to prevent the doors from shutting
and in Ormiston, Tranent, and Musselburgh, it was distinctly felt.
Here, in Edinburgh, fully nine miles from the mills, the two explo-
sions were very generally heard, but supposed by many to be blasts
in the neighbourhing quarries, or a salut from a vessel in the Frith.
The quantity of powder supposed to hare exploded is calcnlated
at about six tons weight, forty barrels were in the store, forty or
fifty in the charge house, and ten on the cart. The two unfortu-
nate men who were killed had both families.
Printed for Robert M'Millan,—PRICE ONE PENNY.
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dottyaussie
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Well Archie what can I say other than you are a STAR !!!!
Thank you so much for the info and and the photo's are absolutely BRILLIANT !!!! I could really imagine myself and my dad sitting on that bench feelin that we were home. Unfortunately he is miles away in Australia so the photo's will mean so much to him. Once again many many thanks
Sandra
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Rockford
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Hi Archie,
You've made a very generous offer, as it must already have taken you some considerable time to put this information together.
I wonder if you could check whether there are any Gilchrists mentioned? I think a headstone is a long shot, but I think they were in and around the area from the early 1850s until about 1900.
Best wishes
Rockford
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Burnside [Londonderry, Lothians and Pennsylvania]
Thorburn [Lanarkshire], Vair [Melrose]
Sweeney [Donegal/Lanarkshire]
Gilchrist [Lanarkshire, Peebles, Lothians], Smith [Dunbartonshire, Lanarkshire, Lothians]
Gregory [Bucks, Wales], Bennett [Somerset, Wales]
Letherby/Howlett/Phipps [Somerset]
Hunter [New Monkland, Fife], Gwynne [New Monkland, Stirling, Midlothian]
Logie/Dunlop/Thomson/Young [West Lothian]
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Templar75
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Thank you Sandra I am only to happy to help, I hope your dad is satisfied with the outcome, please let me know of his reaction.
The story is fantastic thanks for sending it, I will put it on file, there was another Powder Mill towards Borthwick, about a half mile from a hamlet called Catcun,the hamlet is still there, anyway, the Powder Mill was only open about a Month when the whole lot went up in the air, they never rebuilt it, I don't know if it was part of Stobbs or not.
Thank you also for the details on your Cornwall family, I wondered about Mary Knight and now I know, this I will also keep on file if you don't mind that is. Fantastic information, I feel like I know them, it sounds strange but when I visit the area I always say hello to them all, I feel they are watching me in spirit.
I have sent two photos, one is of a memorial to Charles Hitchener who owned the Powder Mill, the memorial was put up by his sister-law, she was refused putting it up at Dalkeith cemetery where he is buried. The story goes that his wife had died, later on he may have had a relationship with the sister-law and that is why it was refused, it was frowned uppon to do this in those days, " Not Proper ".
Charles Hitchiner was also English, so there is a good chance that the Cornwall's came up with him to start the Powder Mill.
The other is from Google to show you roughly the area the Mill was in, I hope this photo is allowed, if not I appologise in advance to the webmaster.
I will send another of the plan of Temple burial ground and place a big " X " where they are buried,
again I think your dad will be happy knowing exactly where they lay.
Sorry to say there are no Clellands buried at Temple.
Take care.
Best regards.
Archie.
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Templar75
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Hi again Sandra,
Here is the 1888 plan of Temple burial ground, the white cross marks the Cornwall Lair number 115, as you can see it is a big one.
Cheers.
Archie.
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Templar75
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Hi Rockford,
here is what I have on file from the headstone supplied.
Agnes Gilchrist died at Esperston 22nd September 1852 aged 14 years, Agnes Beattie her mother died at Halkerston 15th August 1876 aged 59 years, Thomas Gilchrist her husband who died at Upper Dalhouseie 18th February 1891 aged 73 years, Charles Gilchrist their son died at Gladhouse 3rd July 1880, A grand-daughter Helen Gichrist died at Gladhouse 8th June 1883, also Hannah Brown wife of Charles Gilchrist.
( Below from the Old Burial Book 1888-1996 ).
Thomas Gilchrist died at Upper Dalhousie on the 19/02/1891
Charles Gilchrist died at Clayhouses Gorebridge on the 06/07/1902
Hannah Gilchrist died at Clayhoses Gorebridge on the 07/07/1919
( The above are all in Lair number 10 )
William Gilchrist died at Outerston aged 50 on the 27/02/1903
Margaret Brydon Gilchrist died at Temple Farm aged 5 1/2 Months on the 12/11/1918
Isabella Gilchrist died at Temple Farm aged 2 1/2 weeks on the 29/08/1920
Mary Gilchrist died at Temple Farm aged 7 years on the 11/04/1925
Margaret Gilchrist died at Outerston aged 92 years on the 24/07/1941
Mary Gilchrist died at 7 High Street Dalkeith aged 71 on the 01/05/1947
( The above are all in Lair number 114 )
I have no idea if these dates are exact death dates or burial dates.
I hope this might help you tracing your family line Rockford, please let me know.
Best regards.
Archie.
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Templar75
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Hi Sandra,
I came across this a photo taken by John Furnevel, this is known as the Lothian Bridge built in 1847 and was the main line to Edinburgh, this may be where your 2nd G Grandfather was killed, it's the only one I know of in the area.
The interior of the Viaduct is overgrown as you can see in the photo, when they closed the Railway the chap who owns the Caravan Site purchased it for the sum total of £1.00 ( one pound ), as it was going to cost the railway a fortune to knock it down or repair it. The railway now want to re-open the line and asked how much he would sell it back for, his reply was one Million pounds, now that's what I call a profit.
Best.
Archie.
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Maggie J Ingram
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Hello Archie,
Thank you very much for the photographs. Yes, Charles Hitchiner, who came from Faversham in Kent, recruited most of his gunpowder workforce from England. I knew my 4th and 3rd G Grandparents were buried in lair 115 but didn't know that my 2nd G Grandparents were also in the same grave, so thank you very much for that information.
Many thanks,
Maggie
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Rockford
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Hi Archie,
Thank you for providing the information so quickly. It's appreciated.
Unfortunately, I haven't established a connection to Thomas and Agnes Gilchrist - the family commemorated on the gravestone.
However, William Gilchrist and his wife Margaret from Outerston are definitely mine. William and my great, great grandfather were cousins and your information has filled in some gaps for me.
Best wishes
Brian
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Burnside [Londonderry, Lothians and Pennsylvania]
Thorburn [Lanarkshire], Vair [Melrose]
Sweeney [Donegal/Lanarkshire]
Gilchrist [Lanarkshire, Peebles, Lothians], Smith [Dunbartonshire, Lanarkshire, Lothians]
Gregory [Bucks, Wales], Bennett [Somerset, Wales]
Letherby/Howlett/Phipps [Somerset]
Hunter [New Monkland, Fife], Gwynne [New Monkland, Stirling, Midlothian]
Logie/Dunlop/Thomson/Young [West Lothian]
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fred2derf
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Hello Archie,
What great work you have done!! I have a query re the WEST family which is waiting for a reply. In the meantime I'd like to compare what you have for this tombstone with the transcription I have, which I know contains many errors.
The Tombstone of George West and Grace Horn
Erected by G & J WEST
Thanks.
Regards,
Fred
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Templar75
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Hi Fred hope you read my mail to you, here is the headstone, they are in Lair 21.
Best regards.
Archie.
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fred2derf
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Hello Archie,
Thank you very much for the photo and the extra information. Now I'd like to compare the transcription I have with yours.
Regards,
Fred
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