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Bryan Family West Derby
« on: Saturday 14 March 09 13:02 UTC (UK) »

Could anyone help or point me in the right direction please ? I am trying to find my Mothers family. My mother was Brenda Doris Bryan. In 1956 she married Richard Jesse Bennett born Salford Lancs 1929. Mother died in 1966 in Blackpool and all contact with her family was lost. I have her birth cerfificate. Her mother is listed as Mary Catherine Edwards and father as Joseph Harold Bryan. The address of my mothers birth in 1931 and that of her parents was 5 Deansburn Rd Tuebrook Liverpool.

As events are after 1911 I do not have a clue in which direction to go. Would electoral registers help? If so where could I possibly access them?

Many thanks

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Re: Bryan Family West Derby
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 March 09 13:06 UTC (UK) »

Get her parents Marriage Cert to reveal their Fathers names - could just get you back to 1911 ....
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Re: Bryan Family West Derby
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 14 March 09 13:11 UTC (UK) »

Joseph H Bryan Birth Index entries ....

Interesting ..... earlier than expected, and one of 3 J H Bryans born 1888 ! Two were in Leicestershire & Staffs, so this West Derby District seemed more relevant ?

Joseph Harold Bryan
Year of Registration -  2nd Quarter of 1888
District:    West Derby
Volume:    8b
Page:    532


Theres over a dozen Mary Catherines and Catherine Marys born in West Derby / Liverpool / Toxteth .... up to 1907 ...

Anyways, best to search for a marriage twixt Bryan & Edwards working back from 1931 .... I'll see if there are more Bryan births with Edwards as Mums Maiden name - might help to pin down a likely marriage year ...
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Re: Bryan Family West Derby
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 March 09 13:16 UTC (UK) »

This looks like the marriage of her parents

Marriages Dec 1921   
Bryan  Joseph H  Edwards  W.Derby  8b 767   
Edwards  Mary C  Bryan  W Derby  8b 767   

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Re: Bryan Family West Derby
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 March 09 13:20 UTC (UK) »

Blooming heck thank you people, you are very quick. I have spent weeks trying to find that information! The 1888 threw me Seems my grandfather was older than expected.
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Re: Bryan Family West Derby
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 March 09 13:21 UTC (UK) »

2 siblings (possible - same Regn District as your mother):-

Joseph H Bryan     Jul Aug Sep 1923     W.Derby

Mary J Bryan     Jul Aug Sep 1925     W Derby


ah, I see the marriage has been trawled for !
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Re: Bryan Family West Derby
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 March 09 13:24 UTC (UK) »

Dont rely on that 1888 birth - get that marriage cert which may reveal age as well as Fathers name to help ID him in the census.

You can get it online:-

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

using the info shown above - Name, District, Volume and Page numbers.

Just put the male name - best to keep it short and sweet in case of errors in spelling in the original, which might stop a Cert being issued

Let us know what you find

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Re: Bryan Family West Derby
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 March 09 13:24 UTC (UK) »

Looking at the 1911 census index there are a number of Joseph Bryans who could be your grandfather.

If you buy the marriage certificate it will give you Joseph's age and his father's name as well as Mary's father's details.  That will really get your search going along the right lines  Smiley

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Joy, Larkin, Twort, Baker, Whibley - Brenchley and Horsmonden area Kent
Fewell and Speller - Essex and London
Headington and Bateman - London
Feltwell - Norfolk and London
Lewin - India and NZ
Evan-Thomas - Wales and London
Purser and Cook - Hunts

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Re: Bryan Family West Derby
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 March 09 13:41 UTC (UK) »

Thank you very much. I have just applied for the marriage certificate online. As you say hopefully this will get my search underway!  Smiley
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Re: Bryan Family West Derby
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 14 March 09 13:47 UTC (UK) »

Excellent  Smiley

Looking forward to hearing what it says!

Barbara
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Joy, Larkin, Twort, Baker, Whibley - Brenchley and Horsmonden area Kent
Fewell and Speller - Essex and London
Headington and Bateman - London
Feltwell - Norfolk and London
Lewin - India and NZ
Evan-Thomas - Wales and London
Purser and Cook - Hunts

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Re: Bryan Family West Derby
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 14 March 09 13:50 UTC (UK) »

Cheeky note for the moderator: No details of living people have been posted!! Thank you to everyone for all for your help!
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Re: Bryan Family West Derby
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 21 March 09 12:03 UTC (UK) »

Barbara

I recieved the marriage certificate today. This should set me on my search. It turns ourt I had my GM's DOB wrong. She was younger than I thought. Both are listed as spinster and batchelor respectively however GF was 33 and GM was only 18. Thanks for all the help I'm off to do some searching!
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Re: Bryan Family West Derby
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 21 March 09 12:09 UTC (UK) »

Glad you have got the information you need.

Good luck with your search and  do shout if you need any help!

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Joy, Larkin, Twort, Baker, Whibley - Brenchley and Horsmonden area Kent
Fewell and Speller - Essex and London
Headington and Bateman - London
Feltwell - Norfolk and London
Lewin - India and NZ
Evan-Thomas - Wales and London
Purser and Cook - Hunts

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Re: Bryan Family West Derby
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 21 March 09 12:19 UTC (UK) »

yes, glad that helped   Smiley

Looks like that Birth Entry was correct then ...

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Joseph Harold Bryan
Year of Registration -  2nd Quarter of 1888
District:    West Derby
Volume:    8b
Page:    532
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Re: Bryan Family West Derby
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 21 March 09 12:36 UTC (UK) »

If any body gets bored please feel free to have a butchers for me! GM's father listed on certificate as Lewis Cox Edwards. GF's father listed as George Bryan (deceased) occupation Surgeon Dentist

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