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Topic: 1871 1901 census Derby (st Alkmund area) (Read 299 times)
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Jane Manley
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Looking for Mary Jane Savage b 1858 Hemyock Devon possibly married to Thomas Savage (?).
Before marraige she was Mary Jane Manley.
On 1881 census she has been widowed and has 2 daughters, Louisa Savage b 1879 and Mary Ann Savage b 1877.
Living in erasmus st, st alkmund, Derby.
She could be in the Derby area under either name.
Also did she remarry by the 1901 census. (did she marry one of her 1881 lodgers - George Fox or Fred Wright??)
Also was her sister Sarah Ann Manley (b 1858, Hemyock Devon) living in Derby during these years.
Any help would be grateful.
thanks
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plim
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hi
this should be of some help
on Tuesdays the Derby evening telegraph do a bygones of old derby and people who lived there work there ctc.
you can email them at. bygones@derbytelegraph.co.uk
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sunflower
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Hi
1871 census of Taunton, Devon RG10/2370/42/14
Robert Hawkins 55 Innkeeper
Sarah Ann Hawkins 28
Amy Hawkins 3
Robert E Hawkins 3 months
Mary Jane Manley 15 born Hemyock - House Servant
Hope this helps
Sunflower
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Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd. Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Peel,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones Warwickshire - Russon Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw. Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Jane Manley
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Thanks Sunflower
So she was in Devon area with the rest of her family, not very far from home in Hemyock.
Do you know if her sister Sarah Ann Manley b1858? Hemyock was also in the Devon area, perhaps also in service?
Thanks again
Jane
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sunflower
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Hi
1871 census of West Buckland Somerset
RG10/2362/37/16
William Blackmore 31 Coach Builder and Grocer
Sarah Blackmore 32
Joseph Blackmore 4
Mary Ann Blackmore 1 month
Sarah J Manley aged 12 born Hemyock - General Servant
also
Found on FreeBMD
Mary Jane Manley
Thomas Savage Sept quarter 1876 at Derby
Ref 7b 677
Sunflower
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Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd. Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Peel,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones Warwickshire - Russon Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw. Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Jane Manley
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Sunflower,
many thanks
Jane
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sunflower
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Hi Jane
It looks like Mary had re-married by 1891
RG12/2728/66/16-17
1891 census
2 Hill Street, St Peter's Derby
Samuel Riggett Head 39 Gas Labourer bn Derby
Mary J Riggett wife 34 bn Hemyock Devon
Mary A Savage Step dau. 14 bn Chaddeston
Louisa Savage Step dau. 12 bn Derby
Thomas Savage Step son. 9 bn Derby
Benjamin Riggett son 4 bn Derby
Eva Riggett dau. 3 bn Derby
John S Riggett son 3 months bn Derby
Sunflower
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Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd. Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Peel,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones Warwickshire - Russon Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw. Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Jane Manley
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Thanks for the remarriage info about Mary.
It seems the birth of Thomas Savage must have been a close shave!! To be legit , she must have been carrying him during the census, with her previous husband having only just died!?!
(Assuming that the dates are recorded accurately.)
Do you happen to know if Sarah Jane (or Ann) Manley was also in Derby? And had she married and moved to Derby or stayed in Devon. (in 1871she is a servant in West Buckland).
born 1858 Hemyock daughter of John and Mary Manley
Thanks for all your help
Jane
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sunflower
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Hi Jane
This looks like your Sarah
Sarah Ann Manley married Charles Henry Brown
Derby Dec quarter 1877.
1891 census RG12/2738/61/18
St. Alkmunds Derby
Charles Brown 37 Head Fitter Labourer bn Wedsbury Staff
Sarah A Brown 32 wife bn Hemyock Devon
Sarah A Brown 13 dau. bn Derby
Alice Brown 10 dau. bn Derby
Alfred Brown 7 dau. bn Derby
Thomas Brown 5 son bn Derby
Mary A Brown 3 dau.bn Derby
Thomas Hy Brown 1 son bn Derby
(it's strange that there are two Thomas's)
Sunflower
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Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd. Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Peel,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones Warwickshire - Russon Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw. Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Jane Manley
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hello sunflower
This is great about the two sisters. There must be a family connection with Derby for them both to go there?
I will try to check that they are still around in 1901, And find Sarah Ann in 1881 (I dont know why I did not find her before) And see if anyone has 1861 to find them as children at home with parents in Hemyock Devon.
It was only a dead link on search, that gave me the first idea that they existed ( my grandfather was the 12th out of 13 children. and these 2 are the oldest.)
many thanks for all your help
Jane
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