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Alice PARKES, Northfield, abt 1849
« on: Monday 16 March 09 23:55 UTC (UK) »

On censuses 1881,1891 & 1901 Alice POVEY nee PARKES gives her birthplace as Northfield Worcester, Northfield Warwickshire & Northfield Staffordshire in about 1849.  It this one of those places which changed Counties?
In 1871 she was Alice JONES - her first marriage was to a William JONES in 1869
Can anyone find her in 1851 or 1861?
Thank you.
Pat
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Re: Alice PARKES, Northfield, abt 1849
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 00:06 UTC (UK) »



Hi Pat  -  have you got either of her marriage certs - for her father's name?
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Re: Alice PARKES, Northfield, abt 1849
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 00:19 UTC (UK) »

No, not yet - I realise that is the next step but was curious about the location of Northfield.  Would it be in the Registration District of Kings Norton?
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Re: Alice PARKES, Northfield, abt 1849
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 00:25 UTC (UK) »



Yes, it was in Kings Norton.

I can't see  an Alice born Northfield in 1851 or 1861  -  and then of course there is the question of whether she puts b. 1849 both times   Undecided
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Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: Alice PARKES, Northfield, abt 1849
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 00:33 UTC (UK) »



Searching for just Alice  -  no surname - born 1849 Northfield  -  there's Alice Groves in 1851  -  but not 1861  Undecided

And Alice Johnson on both censuses.
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Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: Alice PARKES, Northfield, abt 1849
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 00:51 UTC (UK) »

Thank you.  I'll have to send for a marriage certificate.
Can't see a possible birth registration for her though - except for an Alice PALMER - Kings Norton June 1848 - perhaps that's her?
Cheers - it's always useful to have another opinion.
Pat
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Re: Alice PARKES, Northfield, abt 1849
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 00:58 UTC (UK) »



You're welcome  -  pity they didn't stay born the same year and in the same place back then   Cheesy

But,  I suppose,  it's much the same as someone born Smethwick nowadays saying they are from Birmingham  Undecided
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Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: Alice PARKES, Northfield, abt 1849
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 08:33 UTC (UK) »

Hi Pat, this could be Alice.  1851 Census Piece 2034 201 11 Spies Lane The Hill Halesowen.  Today this place is on the boarder of Halesowen/Quinton/Blackheath.  I am pretty sure it came under Northfield.

Joseph Parkes HD 37 All Nailers All born Halesowen
Mary A Wife 33
William 13
George 11
James 9
Thomas 7
Charles 5
Alice 2

HTH Linell
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Re: Alice PARKES, Northfield, abt 1849
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 08:39 UTC (UK) »

There still there in 1861, with more children!

Joseph 46
Mary A 33
William 23
James 19
Thomas 17
Charles 15
Alice 12
Joseph 7
John 5
David 3
Elizabeth 4 Months
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Re: Alice PARKES, Northfield, abt 1849
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 12:25 UTC (UK) »

This is where some local knowledge is so helpful.  I had seen that entry but without checking thought that Halesowen was in another district.

Is that the same Alice PARKES who gives "The Hill" as place of birth on earlier censuses?

I'm right out of my depth in the Birmingham district!
Thanks for your suggestions

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Re: Alice PARKES, Northfield, abt 1849
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 12:53 UTC (UK) »



Pat  - I saw that too, and dismissed it for the same reason as you   Smiley

That's why I thought knowing who Dad was would be useful.

She's born Hill or The Hill in 1851 and 1861

   Wink
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Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: Alice PARKES, Northfield, abt 1849
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 15:43 UTC (UK) »

Hi Pat and Mum, The Hill is now Mucklows Hill.  There are a lot of Parkes in Halesowen.  A Harry Parkes had a Stationers Shop in Hagley Street, which was in the family up until 1965.  Best Wishes Linell.
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Re: Alice PARKES, Northfield, abt 1849
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 16:42 UTC (UK) »

Could this be Alice.

West Midlands Birth, 1848.
PARKES   Alice, Halesowen. Dudley Register Office. HAL/008/221.

Births Dec 1848.
PARKES    Alice, Stourbridge. 18. 451.

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Re: Alice PARKES, Northfield, abt 1849
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 17:00 UTC (UK) »

A possible marriage for Joseph and Mary Ann.

JOSEPH PARKES.
MARY ANN PARTRIDGE. 
Marriage, 25 DEC 1837. Saint Phillips, Birmingham,
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Re: Alice PARKES, Northfield, abt 1849
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 17 March 09 17:14 UTC (UK) »

i live in Northfield ....can i help Huh
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