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WILLIAMS Family
« on: Wednesday 18 March 09 15:39 UTC (UK) »

I'm looking for info on a Thomas Williams born 1860 Pensilva England and had married a lady by the name Ellen Wright born 1866 Calstock the two of them got married Dec 1885 in the 1901 census they had these children
]: Thomas William 41  Father
Elen William 35  mother
Thomas H William 15 
William J William 13 
Mabel A William 12 
Bertha William 10 
Mary J William 8 
George William 4 
Stanley William 1
any other info would be graet like his parents names or anything else.
Thank you
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Re: WILLIAMS Family
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 March 09 15:48 UTC (UK) »

Have you got the marriage cert?

That would be the next step, it will give his fathers name and occupation.
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Re: WILLIAMS Family
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 March 09 15:56 UTC (UK) »

as lizdb says that is the logical step
here is a possible for when you get the cert
in 1891 he is a copper miner
on 1881 there are onlty 2 that i can see that are born in the right timeframe in cornwall 1 i s married here is the other one
1881
RG11/2283/81/16
thomas williams age 45. b. st.austell. occ. copper miner. head.
selina age 44. b. st.mewan. wife.
thomas age 20. b. st.ives. occ. copper miner. son.
hannah age 16. b. ditto. daughter.
charles age 14. b. ditto. son
mary jane age 12. b. ditto. daughter.
ellen age 10. b. ditto. daughter.
joseph age 7. b. ditto. son.
percy age 4. b. ditto. son.
living at; brownings cottages,st ive,cornwall.

this one is still in st.ives in 1861
do not know how close that is to pensilva?
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Re: WILLIAMS Family
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 March 09 16:05 UTC (UK) »


 Smiley    There are about 20 Thomas Williams in Cornwall on the 1861 and 1871 census born 1858-1862 and none of them say born Pensilva  (which is near Liskeard)

As Liz says - with that name we are going to need a little more information   Grin
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Re: WILLIAMS Family
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 March 09 16:33 UTC (UK) »

I dont know much on this family as my dad's mom was Elsie May Williams born 1904 and got her birth certificate. I do know she married Gilbert George Braund Dec 1925 they both came to canada then went back to england then Elsie came bake to canada in 1930 then passed away 1953 my dad was only 16 but because of the illness Elsie had my dad was put in foster care in 1944-45. I couldn't even tell you if there was any other children born after my grandmother. Here is the info I do have for Thomas Williams
1891
Thomas Williams 30 
Ellen Williams 25 
Thomas H Williams 5 
William J Williams 3 
Mabel A Williams 2 
Bertha Williams 2/12
Thomas is a copper miner
1901
Thomas William 41 
Elen William 35 
Thomas H William 15 
William J William 13 
Mabel A William 12 
Bertha William 10 
Mary J William 8 
George William 4 
Stanley William 1
Thomas is now working at a granite Quarry
Thomas  born in Pensilva which is near Liskeard
Now how would I be able to get census for earlyer years?
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Re: WILLIAMS Family
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 18 March 09 16:50 UTC (UK) »

the reg.dist for the one posted in 1881 is liskeard
you really do need the marr cert
to be sure if this is the right one
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Re: WILLIAMS Family
« Reply #6 on: Monday 23 March 09 21:20 UTC (UK) »

Can any one find info on Elsie may williams born march 10 1904 fathers name Thomas williams trying to find out if she was christened and if so where was she christened.
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Re: WILLIAMS Family
« Reply #7 on: Monday 23 March 09 21:54 UTC (UK) »

Hi timmies,

Cornwall Census is free online.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,144624.0.html

As has been said, you will need Thomas's marriage marriage certificate for his fathers details to hope to find him in the earlier census entries.

The family seem to remain in Calstock, yet I don't see the baptisms listed in the OPC's database. Since none of the baptisms appear, it may mean the family were nonconformists.

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/searchdb.php?dbname=baptisms

You could try contacting the OPC for Calstock to see she has any clues. Perhaps the baptisms took place in one of the nonconformist chapels which have not been transcribed or even over the border in Devon. A lot of events for this area of Cornwall occur over the border.

http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Par_new/a_d/calstock.php

Cheers Kris  Smiley
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Re: WILLIAMS Family
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 14:17 UTC (UK) »

Can any one find a marriage for Charles Williams born abt 1902 calstock, Cornwall and when he left England I have him in Timmins Ontario Canada in 1929, that were Elsie's husband went in 1929 before Elsie in 1930.
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Re: WILLIAMS Family
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 16:31 UTC (UK) »

Wozzle

In Cornwall :

St Ives (far west) on the coast

St Ive (pronounced Eve) near Liskeard.  Pensilva grew out of St Ive to accommodate the miners.


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Re: WILLIAMS Family
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 16:42 UTC (UK) »

Thomas and Ellen's marriage in 1885 is registered as Stoke Damerel - over the border in Devon.

A lot of Cornish people on the border were wed in Stoke Damerel. probably had a "day out".


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Re: WILLIAMS Family
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 17:07 UTC (UK) »

Thats Thomas and Ellen marriage now looking for Charles Williams marriage he was born 1902 and think in 1925 left southampton for Canada because in 1929 his brother in-law went to his place in Timmins Ontario Canada. Can any one help me on this one What I'm looking for is name of wife and passenagers info
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Re: WILLIAMS Family
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 26 March 09 11:10 UTC (UK) »

Can any one help me get the marriage of these 3 Williams girls and who they married?
Mabel A born abt 1889
Bertha born abt 1891
Mary J born abt 1893
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Re: WILLIAMS Family
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 26 March 09 14:54 UTC (UK) »

Have you found the family in 1911 yet, and seen if they are married or still at home then?
With a name like Williams you will need to narrow down the time scale as much as pos.
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Re: WILLIAMS Family
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 26 March 09 20:38 UTC (UK) »

The 3 Williams girls were not in the 1911 census at home with there parent so thats why I'm trying to find there marriages.
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