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Charles Talbot & Eliza Eames m 1837 Portsea
« on: Thursday 19 March 09 08:51 UTC (UK) »

Am looking for anyone with Charles Talbot and Eliza Eames in their tree. Charles was a policeman, born 1811 Bishops Waltham, moved to Kent before returning to Portsea before he died in 1889. Details of their broader family of interest

Charles and Eliza had 6 children (that I know of) George 1841, Charles 1844, John & James 1845, William 1850 and Albert 1858.  James later moved to Australia before his death in New Zealand in 1929.
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Re: Charles Talbot & Eliza Eames m 1837 Portsea
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 March 09 11:14 UTC (UK) »



Hello Grove  Smiley

Have you looked on the IGI  ?

There are baptisms there for siblings of Charles  Smiley

And a possible marriage for his parents in 1805 in Portsea  Smiley

Is that what you mean by wider family ?

    Smiley
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Re: Charles Talbot & Eliza Eames m 1837 Portsea
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 March 09 11:55 UTC (UK) »

im looking for people who are connected - talbots either still in the UK or overseas who have info on the family. have the bdm data thanks
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Re: Charles Talbot & Eliza Eames m 1837 Portsea
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 May 09 16:35 UTC (UK) »

James, son of Eliza and Charles was my great-grandfather. He married Hannah Hogan in Melbourne (their marriage record gives Eliza's maiden name as Hames, as does James' birth certificate.) In 1876 they went from Melbourne to NZ. I have information on their time and family in NZ. Hannah died at my grandmother's in Timaru in 1920. In the Sydenham cemetery records, she is 'widow'. I could not find her headstone when in NZ this year. I tried to verify whether James d.1929 was 'our' James, but no success. He seems to have lived with the eldest son Charles and his wife, after about 1910. (Christchurch electoral records.)
Between about 1846 and 1858 or 9, the Talbot family seems to have been at Chatham; but no trace in 1851 census. I do not know when Eliza died.
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Re: Charles Talbot & Eliza Eames m 1837 Portsea
« Reply #4 on: Friday 15 May 09 19:00 UTC (UK) »

My Talbots are descended from Albert James born in Albert Park Melbourne 1876 just before the Talbots sailed to NZ. He died 1950 in Christchurch but my details on him are sketchy as my grandfather, Fraser, came to Australia c 1920, and to my mothers knowledge never mentioned any of his family.

Fraser married Irene Lynch in Victoria in 1922 and lists his parents as Albert James and Fanny Osborne and that he was born in Auckland. The family were not able to find a birth cert for him when he died and Im still not able to find a copy or details on any marriage between his parents. By the age of Albert James at the time Im guessing they werent married.

After marrying in 1922 Fraser and Irene resided in Albert Park, Im guessing the family still had connections there. Their first child born there. They had 3 children in all, my mother the youngest (she is still alive)

James and Hannah had 9 children by my reckoning - 5 in Melbourne and 4 in NZ. At least 3 died at very young ages.

In the 1861 James is working at the Nags Head Hotel, The Hard, Portsea, and while he sailed on the Arawata to NZ in 1876 I cant find his arrival here. He is listed as a "boarding house operator" on Alberts death cert. In 1851 he was living in Chatham Kent with the family as Charles was a policeman and must have moved with work.

Charles parents were James and Lydia Barnett, in turn James parents Thomas and Olivia Strugnell - always in and around Portsmouth.

If you would like more info please let me know - happy to forward through
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Re: Charles Talbot & Eliza Eames m 1837 Portsea
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 May 09 23:58 UTC (UK) »

Forgot to mention the family were at 4 Skinner St, Chatham, Kent in 1851 - Charles a policeman
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Re: Charles Talbot & Eliza Eames m 1837 Portsea
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 10:07 UTC (UK) »

bhzburton are you in Australia? your post indicates you only "visited" NZ.  please email me on *, I am interested in your NZ Talbot info

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Re: Charles Talbot & Eliza Eames m 1837 Portsea
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 27 June 09 11:49 UTC (UK) »

Eliza Talbot (b 1870) was my paternal grandmother.  She married my grandfather, Edward Dalton, in New Zealand in 1901.  My  father, Robert Hennah (shown as Hannah in some records) Talbot Dalton was born in Christchurch in 1902.  The family left New Zealand in 1904 eventually settling in Toronto where my grandfather's family was located.  When my father was 10 (i.e. in 1912) the parents separated with my father and his younger brother Edward moving with their father (Edward) to California and their mother (Eliza) remaining in Toronto.  My understanding is that Eliza and Edward passed away in 1935 and 1938, respectively.  My father married and had three sons, Robert (1937), Thomas (1939 - 2008) and James (1943).  I'd be happy to provide any additional infomation desired and would be interested in learning more about other Talbot descendants.  Thanks.
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Re: Charles Talbot & Eliza Eames m 1837 Portsea
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 27 August 09 19:00 UTC (UK) »

Hullo All!
              In my tree I have a great aunt, Ethel Goater who married John Charles Talbot in Portsmouth in 1903. He was the son of John Talbot who was born circa 1847 in Chatham and his mother was born Adelaide Catherine Hames in Titchfield in 1852. John and Adelaide married at St.Mary's Portsea 28/1/1875. John senior worked as a rigger and moved back to Kent where he died in 1925.

According to Susan Colson who I contacted on GenesReunited John was the son of the above mentioned Charles and Eliza. Susan is a direct descendent of Albert Talbot (1857) and has information on a few more. (I will alert her to this thread.)

John junior and Ethel had two children that I am aware of:Phyllis(c.1904 ) and Ronald(1906). I don't know what became of them as our families never communicated.

Regards,
Phil 
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Re: Charles Talbot & Eliza Eames m 1837 Portsea
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 29 August 09 14:19 UTC (UK) »

Hi
I am a desendant of Charles and Eliza Talbot, my great - grandfather was Albert born in Kent in 1858.
any good
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Re: Charles Talbot & Eliza Eames m 1837 Portsea
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 29 August 09 23:11 UTC (UK) »

Hello Susan

As per my earlier post my connection is via Alberts brother James, who arrived in Australia sometime between 1861 and 1868 (In Portsea for 1861 census and married Hannah Hogan in Melbourne in 1868), had 5 children in Melbourne before leaving for NZ in 1876 where they had 4 more. My grandfather was born in NZ, Albert James (1 of James children) and arrived back in Australia pre 1922. He married in 1922.

Have more detailed info you would like
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Re: Charles Talbot & Eliza Eames m 1837 Portsea
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 30 August 09 13:29 UTC (UK) »

Hi My family are decended from Albert Talbot and Sarah Jane Mullet. They lived in Portsmouth, Albert was a blacksmith in the dockyard. My grandfather was Charles Albert and he married Augusta Thomas in 1911 and they had Frederick Albert and my dad Harold Aubrey. Augusta died in 1919 and then Charles married Nellie Minchin and they had Dorothy. They moved to Gosport in the 1930's where Charles died in 1952 and Nellie in 1966. Harold died in 1982, Fred moved to Scotland in 1942.
I hope this helps.
Sue
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