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Reayboy
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H guys,
I am stuck with my Hatley connection in Cambridgeshire. I have an Edward Hatley born in Newmarket in 1833. Due to boundary changes, Newmarket then was listed as being in the county of Suffolk.
Edward's parents are Samuel Hatley and his wife Jane. I have found Samuel on a few census' but his age conflicts big time, sometimes by as much as 10 years. Can anybody help me to sort this out...I am quite stumped by it all. The majority of the census have Samuel's birthplace down as Wood Ditton. On anther note, I did look on the IGI. The nearest entry I could find was in the 1790's!
I am not sure what to do next. I am not entirely sure if the Samuel's on each census are the same guy, as he seems to have been widowed.
Any help appreciated here, I am finding it difficult getting my head around this family!
Regards and thanks for reading. If you need any more info please ask 
Matt
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Durham : Reay, Coxon, Dixon
Newcastle Upon Tyne: Stothard/Stoddart
Cambridgeshire: Hatley, Coe, Flack, Linsdell, Kirby, Laud
Suffolk: Baker, Smith, Flatman
Cumbria: Peel, Scott, Hunter
Gloucestershire: Wertheim, Westcott, Howell, Liles/Lyle/Lyle, Hitching/s
Motherwell, Owens, Rice
Fife: Herd, Moyes, Rodger, Fotheringham
County Tyrone: Owens, Fox, Downie
County Antrim: McGill/Magill
County Donegal: McCartney
Glamorgan: Howell, Liles
Brecon: Griffiths (later in Abergavenny)
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Ayashi
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Posts: 249
Nutcase trying to trace other related nutcases
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As for age, I sympathise. I believe I've told you about my Walter Jones, whose age on census gave him a date of birth range of 1805-1813. Mostly it depended on which wife he was with- his first wife was c1797 and second wife was c1826, so he altered his age to suit. So it happens...
Can't help with the rest of it I'm afraid
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Hillier (Wiltshire)
Trewartha, Uglow, Hamley, Northcott, Richards, Hillier(Cornwall/Devon)
Jones, Griffiths, Lewis, James (Wales)
Hine, Glover, Urwin, Brady, Wood, Carter, Nelson, Bainbridge/Bambrigg(Tynemouth/Durham/Westmorland)
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tempsford
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Posts: 380
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi,
The only baptisms for Samuel Hatley on Cambridgeshire baptisms index are
Samuel Hatley bn 18 Oct 1786 bap 10 June 1798 at Horseheath son of John and Elizabeth
Samuel Hatley bap 25 Jan 1807 Fordham, son of Edward and Jane
Do you have the details for Samuel and Janes marriage in 1829 at Wood Ditton? One of the witnesses was Edward Hatley.
There is no baptism for Samuel in Wood Ditton about that time.
Tempsford.
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Reayboy
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Hi tempsford.
I have a few census' that I have do have Fordham as Samuel's place of birth, around 1805-8. Withthis in mind, Iwoul say that the baptism in 1807 you have found is extremely likely to be that of my ancestor.
I will be honest I did not expect to see that. Thanks for looking him up for me. Do you have details as to when Edward and Jane married? I'm presuming it would be in the 1790's?
On the subject of Samuel's married to Jane in 1829, I do have details of that yes I believe her maiden name was Coe, and her father was called John.
Regards and thanks again. This is a very good find. Cheers!
Matt
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Durham : Reay, Coxon, Dixon
Newcastle Upon Tyne: Stothard/Stoddart
Cambridgeshire: Hatley, Coe, Flack, Linsdell, Kirby, Laud
Suffolk: Baker, Smith, Flatman
Cumbria: Peel, Scott, Hunter
Gloucestershire: Wertheim, Westcott, Howell, Liles/Lyle/Lyle, Hitching/s
Motherwell, Owens, Rice
Fife: Herd, Moyes, Rodger, Fotheringham
County Tyrone: Owens, Fox, Downie
County Antrim: McGill/Magill
County Donegal: McCartney
Glamorgan: Howell, Liles
Brecon: Griffiths (later in Abergavenny)
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Reayboy
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Hi redroger,
All of the census and other documents I havefor this family state them as either Hatkey or Hattley. In my searches I have to admit I have found a fair few Hartley's, but none seem to fit into my Hatley's. It is definitely something to keep an eye out for though.
Regards,
Matt
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Durham : Reay, Coxon, Dixon
Newcastle Upon Tyne: Stothard/Stoddart
Cambridgeshire: Hatley, Coe, Flack, Linsdell, Kirby, Laud
Suffolk: Baker, Smith, Flatman
Cumbria: Peel, Scott, Hunter
Gloucestershire: Wertheim, Westcott, Howell, Liles/Lyle/Lyle, Hitching/s
Motherwell, Owens, Rice
Fife: Herd, Moyes, Rodger, Fotheringham
County Tyrone: Owens, Fox, Downie
County Antrim: McGill/Magill
County Donegal: McCartney
Glamorgan: Howell, Liles
Brecon: Griffiths (later in Abergavenny)
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tempsford
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Posts: 380
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi,
From Fordham PR'S
Edward Hatley of Wicken bac, married Jane Munns sp otp
21 June 1799. Wits Ann Porter and Henry Holmes
I noticed you are researching the name Linsdell. My gt grandfather was a linsdell. My Linsdells are from around Linton.
Tempsford.
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Reayboy
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I have a Catherine Linsdell born 1701, father Thomas, in Linton. I believe her mother's name was Jane. That is all I have on this branch at the moment. It is direct but quite far back so resources are of course limited
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Durham : Reay, Coxon, Dixon
Newcastle Upon Tyne: Stothard/Stoddart
Cambridgeshire: Hatley, Coe, Flack, Linsdell, Kirby, Laud
Suffolk: Baker, Smith, Flatman
Cumbria: Peel, Scott, Hunter
Gloucestershire: Wertheim, Westcott, Howell, Liles/Lyle/Lyle, Hitching/s
Motherwell, Owens, Rice
Fife: Herd, Moyes, Rodger, Fotheringham
County Tyrone: Owens, Fox, Downie
County Antrim: McGill/Magill
County Donegal: McCartney
Glamorgan: Howell, Liles
Brecon: Griffiths (later in Abergavenny)
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tempsford
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Posts: 380
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi,
Children of Edward and Jane Hatley,
Sarah bap 27 Oct 1799. Fordham
Jane bn 12 Nov 1801 bap 11 Jan 1802
Henry bn 8 Jun 1804 bap 17 Aug 1804
Samuel bap 25 Jan 1807
Edward bap 11 Mar 1810
John bap 26 Jan 1812
Robert bap 9 Nov 1817
Mary bap 2 July 1820
I've only managed to get my Linsdells back to 1745!
Tempsford.
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tempsford
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi Redroger,
Sorry, Henry Holmes was a witness to the marriage, I don't know about any connections to Ayres and Cornwell families.
Tempsford.
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Reayboy
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Bingo there's the children!
Thanks for those tempsford, I am sure I can get a few details on each of those kids! I have done a quick search on the IGI extracted entries and they dont seem to have anything on birth/baptisms for Edward Hatley or Jane Munns. I will continue looking and post if I find anything.
Thanks again for your quick and ample responses, any other info happily welcomed!
Regards,
Matt
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Durham : Reay, Coxon, Dixon
Newcastle Upon Tyne: Stothard/Stoddart
Cambridgeshire: Hatley, Coe, Flack, Linsdell, Kirby, Laud
Suffolk: Baker, Smith, Flatman
Cumbria: Peel, Scott, Hunter
Gloucestershire: Wertheim, Westcott, Howell, Liles/Lyle/Lyle, Hitching/s
Motherwell, Owens, Rice
Fife: Herd, Moyes, Rodger, Fotheringham
County Tyrone: Owens, Fox, Downie
County Antrim: McGill/Magill
County Donegal: McCartney
Glamorgan: Howell, Liles
Brecon: Griffiths (later in Abergavenny)
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tempsford
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Posts: 380
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi Matt,
Jane Munns was baptised in Fordham on 3 Sep 1780 dau of William and Jemima.
William Munns, singleman married Jemima Rising, sp, botp,
24 Sep 1769, Fordham. Wits John Coe and John Negus
No luck with Edward.
Tempsford
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