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Just Moi
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Re: Wherever I Lay My Hatley's...
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 11 April 09 08:06 UTC (UK) »

Hi Matt,

I will keep keen eyes out too, while I am looking for my Mary Ann's husband John (Ellington) Smith, who was probably born Ely, abt 1840.  They named one of their NSW Aust born sons Thomas Hartley SMITH.  Cheers ggd of Mary Ann !
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Re: Wherever I Lay My Hatley's...
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 11 April 09 17:01 UTC (UK) »

ggd of Mary Ann, I seem to have distracted things on this thread somewhat,the originator asked for Hatley, I am interested in Hartley, and its connection to the Ayres/Cornwell family in Bottisham/Lode. Do you have any known connection with those please?
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Re: Wherever I Lay My Hatley's...
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 12 April 09 02:05 UTC (UK) »

Hi Redroger,

I dont have any known connection to anyone in Bottisham/Lode, but I do have Hartley, which seems to have spelling variations including Hatley and Hartly here in NSW Australia on some of the records that refer to my forebears in late 19thC NSW.  My direct line is stuck at a brickwall in Ely, Cams, with a John SMITH, born ca 1840 at Ely.  His middle name does not arise on documentation until he was in his 40's, and twas Ellington.
My reason for posting on this thread is simply that I recognised Reaybo M from other threads and the chatroom.   Cheers Redroger, Happy Easter.  GGD of Mary Ann.  (Reaybo and I both have great grandmothers whose first names were Mary Ann).
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Re: Wherever I Lay My Hatley's...
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 12 April 09 18:44 UTC (UK) »

Fortunately I have very few Smith's in my tree; unlike my wife whose maiden name was Taylor. My relatives who went voluntarily to Australia (some didn't!) seem to have something of a reputation for arranged cousin marriages. Brides being sent out after several years! Have you heard of this? It does seem to be something of a taboo subject.
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Re: Wherever I Lay My Hatley's...
« Reply #19 on: Monday 13 April 09 00:53 UTC (UK) »

Hi Redroger
Yes, there are some interesting relationships in my forebears tree and as far as I know twas no more and no less than other families trees, but twas definitely taboo subject.  Of course genie searches can be made more difficult cause of fibs (mostly inadvertent) that appear on bdm records from those times.  Cheers  MA
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Re: Wherever I Lay My Hatley's...
« Reply #20 on: Monday 13 April 09 17:14 UTC (UK) »

One set of my mother's 3great grandparents were also a set of her 4greatgrandparents, which leaves me, and the legacy 7 program somewhat confused. The cause was youngest child marrying a cousin who was the same age group, but the offspring of their eldest sibling! Just about OK when I checked it out.
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Re: Wherever I Lay My Hatley's...
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 27 June 09 15:53 UTC (UK) »

Hello again all,

After a few months of research on the Hatley's and the Munns, I have managed to find out a few more pieces of information. There are still a few gaps however and I was wondering if you have time could you please look for the following in the Fordham PR's.

Jane Hatley burial between 1861-71, she was an elderly woman of about 82-86. She is on the 1861 census in Carter Street, Fordham as a midwife!!!

Her husband Edward was dead before 1841 and he may also be buried in Fordham. He was still alive in 1819 though, which gives a 20 yer period...dont wory about this one too much if it takes up too much time!

Thankyou for reading, and thankyou again for the information you have all given me...it has been a very progressive few months thanks to you and it is appreciated I promise!!!

Regards,
Matt Smiley
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Durham : Reay, Coxon, Dixon
Newcastle Upon Tyne: Stothard/Stoddart
Cambridgeshire: Hatley, Coe, Flack, Linsdell, Kirby, Laud
Suffolk: Baker, Smith, Flatman
Cumbria: Peel, Scott, Hunter
Gloucestershire: Wertheim, Westcott, Howell, Liles/Lyle/Lyle, Hitching/s
Motherwell, Owens, Rice
Fife: Herd, Moyes, Rodger, Fotheringham
County Tyrone: Owens, Fox, Downie
County Antrim: McGill/Magill
County Donegal: McCartney
Glamorgan: Howell, Liles
Brecon: Griffiths (later in Abergavenny)
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Re: Wherever I Lay My Hatley's...
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 27 June 09 16:07 UTC (UK) »

Try:
1. http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html for the burial of Edward. There are two in Fordham 1801-37. You don't give likely ages so I can't tell which might be yours

2. www.freebmd.org.uk for the death of Jane. There's one in 1862 in Downham registration district which includes Fordham

David
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Re: Wherever I Lay My Hatley's...
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 27 June 09 20:06 UTC (UK) »

Thankyou David, would you believe both Edward's are mine. The burial in 1831 is the one I was after, and the one in 1833 was a son. I have also found some more family burials from the link you gave me, so thankyou Smiley It has also helped me add a few rellies to the tree this afternoon!

Cheers again,

Matt
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Durham : Reay, Coxon, Dixon
Newcastle Upon Tyne: Stothard/Stoddart
Cambridgeshire: Hatley, Coe, Flack, Linsdell, Kirby, Laud
Suffolk: Baker, Smith, Flatman
Cumbria: Peel, Scott, Hunter
Gloucestershire: Wertheim, Westcott, Howell, Liles/Lyle/Lyle, Hitching/s
Motherwell, Owens, Rice
Fife: Herd, Moyes, Rodger, Fotheringham
County Tyrone: Owens, Fox, Downie
County Antrim: McGill/Magill
County Donegal: McCartney
Glamorgan: Howell, Liles
Brecon: Griffiths (later in Abergavenny)
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Re: Wherever I Lay My Hatley's...
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 27 June 09 20:26 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
Edward Hatley was buried 18 Dec 1831 age 53
Edward was buried 17 Jan 1833 age 23
My parish registers only go up to 1852 but on the Cambridgeshire burial index Jane Hatley was buried in Fordham in 1875 age 98.

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