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Topic: Edith Marion Queenie Gorring/William James Wall (Read 649 times)
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AMBLY
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Hi
FMP shows:
Albt, Rose, Queenie and Thomas GARRING departing Liverpool in 1909, to Quebec.
http://www.findmypast.com/home.jsp
Cheers
AMBLY
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Jacquie in Canada
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There is a passenger list that has Albert, Rose and Queenie Gorring arriving in Montreal on 18 May 1906 on board the Lake Champlain. Also on the same ticket number is William Davies. They were going to Revelstoke, British Columbia. Here's a link to the image at Library and Archives Canada (family starts on line 31):
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e147/e003660040.jpg
Here's a link to the passenger list referred to by Ambly and kptz from Library and Archives Canada (family starts on line 10):
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e143/e003558934.jpg
Albert, Rose, Queenie and Thomas were on the Virginian which arrived in Quebec on 27 Aug 1909. They were returning to Revelstoke.
At Ancestry, I found a passenger list for the Ascania that had Rose Gorring travelling with her sons Thomas, 20, and Victor, 9. They arrived in Quebec on 11 Sep 1927. The passenger list indicates that both Thomas and Victor were born in Revelstoke. The passenger list indicates they were returning to Albert at an address in Toronto. They had been to England to visit Rose's sister, Elizabeth Mortimer. Thomas' occupation is listed as tinsmith.
Jacquie
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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz
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buttercup2009
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Thank you so much KPTZ and Jacquie - this is soooooooo helpful. Jacquie you have also solved another mystery by telling me her sisters name  There are seven sisters here, nearly all of them came to Canada. Elizabeth married a man called James Thomas Ford and he died in South Africa during the second Boer War. I was sure she would marry again but had not been able to trace her, now I think I will be able to as you have given me her new marriage name, thank you.
Could I ask another question about one of the other sisters, her name is Alice Ellis. I know that she is living in England in 1911 with her two children (she has three) and George William Ellis b: 1879, her husband is living in Vancouver with another sister Lily Frisby. I feel sure that she would have joined George at some point but can't find her passage leaving here and my Ancestry is limited subscription.
The other sisters are Emma Frisby, Agnes Mary (May) Terry, she sadly died in BC in 1907 and Lily arrived in 1907, now I know that at least Rose was in the country and perhaps with her when she died. I think the two remaining sisters stayed in England but it's possible they too came over. My aunt told me that if our Granddad hadn't died in WW1, they would also have gone, he was one of four brothers. I so appreciate your help.  
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Davey Brightlingsea/Jersey/Oxford
Whitsey Lambeth
Cuckow Coventry/Camberwell/Canada
Broadrib Camberwell/Canada
Mear(e)s Haverfordwest/Woolwich
Lemon Plymouth/Woolwich/Plumstead
Staplehurst Sussex/Greenwich
Frisby Market Deeping/Ontario/BC Canada
Terry Bletchingley/London/BC Canada
Hunt Alresford/Plumstead/Deptford
Gorring Plumstead/Canada
Ford Woolwich - James Thomas died in South Africa
Ellis Woolwich/Wandsworth/Canada
Juby Plumstead
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Jacquie in Canada
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What year was Alice born and can you provide details about the children?
Jacquie
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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz
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Jacquie in Canada
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I found an entry that has Alice Ellis departing from Avonmouth/Bristol*, England on the Royal Edward on 30 Apr 1913 and arriving in Quebec on 7 May 1913. Travelling with her are Ethel, 9, and John, 6. They are going to Vancouver. Here's the image from Library and Archives Canada (starts line 10):
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e144/e003585701.jpg
*The Canadian passenger list database at Ancestry says Avonmouth, FMP says Bristol.
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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz
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miw
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Hi Buttercup
Do you have any details of the divorce. William was my (Great) Uncle Bill and I have been told that it was an annulment rather than a divorce. All I have been able to trace is that it was a private bill in Canada, but I guess that was the only way to end a marriage then. Also do you have details of any other marriages for Queenie or dates of birth for the children? I have found dates for Bill's second marriage and the child from that marriage from a tree on Ancestry. I haven't found any voyage dates that i can be sure are William but that is a much more common name.
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miw
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Hi
No I live in Kent.
I understood that Queenie had committed bigamy, but like all family stories you can't be sure till you get to the source. Bill was born in Erith, Kent 1895 and died in Califonia 1984. His 2nd wife was Elizabeth Maude Webb (known as Maude) -thought i had a date for this but I don't. Bill had 3 children at least one of them with Maude. He often visited his sisters in Kent/SE London and after Maude died he travelled a lot between England, Canada and USA.
Do you know for sure that the marriage to Queenie was 1919? where?
Which part of the family is your main interest?
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OMG Avonmouth is Bristol - I got the other file thank you. I need to take this in and it's 1am - so Jacquie, I thank you kindly once again and I'm away to my bed.