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Topic: Looking for information on the Punch Pub, Hull (Read 253 times)
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katherinem
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One of my major brickwalls is a Thomas Joseph Jervis born 1836 (family folklore says he was a sea captain from Denmark). From many contacts the same story has been passed down that he was murdered in Hull - date unknown. I have searched in vain for a death certificate 
His wife (Catherine Elizabeth) takes up with another man around 1878 and has several children with him, although they never marry.
My latest family contact was told that Thomas was murdered for his ships wages at the Punch Pub, hence my enquiry.
I can find information via Google on a Punch Hotel in Hull and wondered if anyone with local knowledge could tell me if this existed 1870 - 1913.
Kath
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danuslave
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Hi Kath
I don't know how accurate this is
www.ghostlygoingson.com/punchhotelhull.htm
The old Punch Hotel had been situated in Waterhouse Lane since the 1840s but was turned around to face St John's Street when rebuilt in 1895-96 now overlooking Victoria Square. It was possibly Hull's most elaborate pub designed by Smith, Bradrick and Lowther Co. It is a masterpiece of Terracotta and Burnantofts faience panels. Recognised as a listed building the Punch Hotel is an architectural gem
Linda
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Rena
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I've looked online for mention in the local newspaper using search terms "Punch" and "Jervis", "Jarvis" but although the names cropped up, unfortunately nothing for your man.
There's mention of the pub in the Hull Packet Newspaper dated 1884 which gives this address: The Punch Bowl in Waterhouse Lane, Hull.
... and here's the pub and it's landlord in the Hull 1892 street directory which is online. It's on Waterhouse Lane on the corner of Myton Place
1892 Hall Edward, victualer, Punch (corner of Myton Place/Waterhouse Lane)
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Transcriptions/ERY/Hull1892StreetsW.html
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Myton is by the docks and it's possible that this 1871 death on the Yorkshire bmd site is your Thomas JOSEPH JERVIS who looks about the right age to have been born in 1836:
1871: JARVIS / Joseph / aged 35/ Myton / Hull / MYT/68/166
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Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy
Leith area: Mason, Telford, Darling, Cruikshanks, Sime, Bell
Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar
Ross, Urray:Mackenzie
Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell
Perthshire: Brown Ferguson
Wales: McCarthy, Thomas
England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells
Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke
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Rena
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I did find one sailor called Capt Jarvis but he was still alive after 1871 so I doubt he's your man:
The Hull Packet and East Riding Times (Hull, England), Friday, October 15, 1875; Issue 4703.
SHIPPING DISASTERS
VESSEL RUN DOWN IN THE CHANNEL, - The Lady Alice of Salcombe, Captain Jarvis, while making from that port from Hull was run down in the channel on Monday, and sunk by the German steamer Nuremberg. The weather was fine and the night clear. The watch observed a large steamer bearing down on their craft, and they naturally expected that, according to the run of the road at sea, she would make way for them. Her course was not altered, however, until the Lady Alice was close under her bows.
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Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy
Leith area: Mason, Telford, Darling, Cruikshanks, Sime, Bell
Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar
Ross, Urray:Mackenzie
Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell
Perthshire: Brown Ferguson
Wales: McCarthy, Thomas
England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells
Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke
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katherinem
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Hi Linda and Rena
Many thanks for all the information and your time, it is really appreciated.
Myton is by the docks and it's possible that this 1871 death on the Yorkshire bmd site is your Thomas JOSEPH JERVIS who looks about the right age to have been born in 1836:
1871: JARVIS / Joseph / aged 35/ Myton / Hull / MYT/68/166
Have seen this before, so today have taken the plunge and ordered the cert.
Kath
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Rena
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I'm pretty certain that a child's own given name in Denmark (like Germany) was not the first one on the register; the first given name being donated by a godparent, or sponsor, for example.
I found it interesting to discover that the Danish surname Jarvis had an umlaut over the 'a'; the 'a' must have sounded a bit like the English 'er' - hence the alternative English spelling of Jervis.
Good luck
Rena in Lancashire
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Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy
Leith area: Mason, Telford, Darling, Cruikshanks, Sime, Bell
Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar
Ross, Urray:Mackenzie
Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell
Perthshire: Brown Ferguson
Wales: McCarthy, Thomas
England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells
Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke
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katherinem
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Hi,
Thought I would let you know that the death cert was not our Thomas - but at least I have eliminated that death!
I will have to endeavour to visit Hull some day to trawl through the newspapers in the archives.
It is very frustrating as I do not even know when he died; but there is something odd as his wife and new partner did not marry, and even though they were together for around 30 years, on Catherine's death cert she was shown as widow of Thomas Joseph Jervis, on the 1911 she is shown as head of household, although Frederick (new partner) is shown below her as husband. On another census Frederick has the surname Jervis and the children of Catherine and Frederick all had a middle name of Jervis!
Have wondered if Catherine was receiving some kind of income that would cease on her remarriage; but then again I do have a very vivid imagination!
Thanks again for your help.
Kath
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