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heywood
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Re: Melford/Milford lookup
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 13:16 UTC (UK) »

From memory - need to scroll down the page to the alphabetical bit ( Roll Eyes) at the bottom and go to the section which includes the 'M' - then to Mayo.
You will see a list of the baronies of Mayo and it tells you the history of the families and chieftains.
Look at the Tirawley barony for the name re the Milfords.

I am not sure how far you will be able to get realistically but with Rose Ann stating Mayo it adds credence and Hannah's name may too.  Cheesy
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Melford/Milford lookup
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 15:06 UTC (UK) »

Hi Kath...Yes, I read the webpage after I sent the last post and have copied and pasted the information on my database. Many thanks for your efforts.

As an English woman I can't get my head (or rather my tongue) around some of the Irish names as they're so difficult to read let alone pronounce, have you had that problem or are you Irish and can speak both languages?

Yes, it is reasonable to assume that if Rose Ann was born in Co. Mayo then her mother would have been born there too. Can't really say as much about Thomas (her father) as he could have travelled for work etc. So he could have been born in another county or even another country. There are no records for either Thomas nor Hannah before they came to England. Would I have more luck with the Irish censuses? I haven't found them very helpful up to now.

Kind regards
Chris.


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Re: Melford/Milford lookup
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 15:13 UTC (UK) »

No I'm English and can't read them at all but thought it was interesting enough.
The Irish censuses are only available from  1901 so you are really reliant on parish records.
I think the best thing to do now is to hurry and get that certificate and see what happens then.
Thomas does say Ireland so it seems a sensible supposition that they arrived from Ireland  Cheesy
There are a few children's births in Ireland according to 1861 census so th.ey seem to be the only means of finding anything out through baptism records. I only know that with my own family the early church records are either none existent or very scant.
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Melford/Milford lookup
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 15:27 UTC (UK) »

I'm just searching through censuses for Sheffield folk born Mayo and found that Rosanna gives Mayo as place of birth in 1881  Roll Eyes
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Melford/Milford lookup
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 16:46 UTC (UK) »

For what it is worth, there is the following Baptism on this web site:

www.brsgenealogy.com (pay to view site 5 Euros)

Anne Milford / Church Baptism / 1840 / County Mayo

Dee
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Melody: Carrick, Attymass, Ballina, County Mayo
Cassidy:Mayo/Leitrim
Granaghan: Crossmolina, County Mayo
Mullens: Kensington, London
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Re: Melford/Milford lookup
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 18:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi Dee...Thanks for your help.

I've looked on the brs website but unless Ann belongs to another member of the Milford family I'm not sure this will help me. I'm actually looking for Rose Ann Melford/Milford. Unless her parents dropped the Rose to get her passage out of Ireland? Not sure why they would do this. There are no records in Ireland for Rose Ann or any of her family that I can find.

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Chris
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Re: Melford/Milford lookup
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 18:33 UTC (UK) »

Oh Dee- I have been looking everywhere! Well done  Shocked Grin Cheesy
That sounds quite plausible as Ann in 1851 is 10 yrs and that is pretty close  Cheesy
I do hope that something comes from it. I am running out of ideas.

cheers
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Melford/Milford lookup
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 18:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris,
there is a possibility though that Thomas and Ann in 1851 are yours - sometimes we have to take a risk.
If it is not too expensive then I would go for it - just to check the parents and eliminate.
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Re: Melford/Milford lookup
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 18:54 UTC (UK) »

Hi Kath...Yes, as you say, there's hardly any Milfords in Co. Mayo, so it does look more like they belong to my family. I'll apply for John Milford's birth certificate (the English born son)and see where that gets me.

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Chris
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Re: Melford/Milford lookup
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 19:49 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris,
yes that's the best to do and take it from there - please keep in touch when it arrives!
Kath
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Melford/Milford lookup
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 20:17 UTC (UK) »

Hunnyb22 & Heywood, I found that I had 1 credit left on Mayoancestors.com so I have used it up for the Baptism for Anne.  (Well, I was never going to find any of our lot - they are a total mystery). Here it is:

Church Baptism

Name:              Anne Milford
Date:               5th Jan 1840
Address:          Kilbree
Parish              Islandeady, Roman Catholic,  South Mayo
Father:            Thomas Milford
Mother:            Honoria Bery
1. Sponsor       John Milford
2. Sponsor       Bridget Lawless

I would love it to be your lady, but as Heywood said, Mayo records are as rare as 'hen's teeth'.  (It's a long story for our lot)

Dee


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Melody: Carrick, Attymass, Ballina, County Mayo
Cassidy:Mayo/Leitrim
Granaghan: Crossmolina, County Mayo
Mullens: Kensington, London
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Re: Melford/Milford lookup
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 20:23 UTC (UK) »

What a love you are  Cheesy

I would certainly not dismiss it at this stage - Griffiths has Patrick at Kilbree Lower.
John is a family name (I know it's a name for a lot of families  Grin)
We have a Thomas with a daughter Ann born around that time (she may die in 1852 in SHeffield- there is one)
There may be a mistranscription or interchange of Honoria/Hannah.
I realise that I am making it fit .. but it is worth hanging on to and filing away Chris.
Thanks again Dee. (We get so involved in these matters don't we  Roll Eyes)
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Melford/Milford lookup
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 22:27 UTC (UK) »

Heywood, I was thinking along the same lines as yourself.  I've spent years going through Mayo records (what there is of them and nothing is ever as it seems).  That last unit has been sitting there for nearly 12 months so better to try and help someone with it.  I certainly had no use for it.  Happy hunting Chris.

Dee
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Melody: Carrick, Attymass, Ballina, County Mayo
Cassidy:Mayo/Leitrim
Granaghan: Crossmolina, County Mayo
Mullens: Kensington, London
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Re: Melford/Milford lookup
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 23:08 UTC (UK) »

Dee and Chris,
I had a quick look up and Honoria /Hannah are interchangeable according to one site I saw. I know of Honor/Honoria/Hanoria/Nora.
There is also the name Berry around both in Mayo and in Sheffield (some even from Mayo).
SO Chris, we will wait until the certificate arrives and see if Hannah is a Berry  Undecided
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Re: Melford/Milford lookup
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 23:13 UTC (UK) »

Hi Dee...Thank you so much for using your credit to help me, it's greatly appreciated.

There were a lot of fatalities in those days, because of the potato famine a lot of people died of starvation and disease.

You're probably right, Ann could be one of Thomas and Hannah's children. However, there seems to be a lot of Anns, Hannah, Ann, Rose Ann and Mary Ann.

We can only assume Honoria/Hannah Berry is my maternal great, great grandmother as it's the closest we're going to get with this family, which is probably the right one anyway.  

Hannah's surname is probably spelt Berry or Bury, although the name hasn't cropped up in any records I've found, either on the English or Irish records. However, I'm not doubting this as I'm a lot further with this family than I've been for a long time. Thank you both, Kath and Dee, for your help.

Our kids take a lot for granted these days, perhaps by creating our family trees now, will help future generations realise what hardships their ancestors went through just to survive?

My next mission is to put all this information on my family tree and find out when and how the Melford/Milfords came over to England, what their journey was like etc.

Kind regards
Chris.
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