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Re: AITKEN family, West Linton, Peeblesshire
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 14:10 UTC (UK) »

hi pal,


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Re: AITKEN family, West Linton, Peeblesshire
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 17:28 UTC (UK) »

Hi JOEKAR

How fascinating, thank you for the info re John E Aitken & Fam returning to UK and where they were going to settle, namely Hunting, St Ives.
As you said yesterday, he and his sister Marjory Grace Aitken (b India), were living with their grandparents, John & Grace Aitken, in West Linton, as shown by the 1901 Census.
Wonder when he, and maybe his sister returned to grown up in India?
And, talk about following in his father's footsteps, into banking, like his Uncle Richard also.
I've been in touch with the Curator of the Bank of England, but he states that no branches of the Bank of England operated outside of England, so Robert Aitken must have gone out, as you said before, possibly round about 1895, to maybe work in the Bank of India?
I've been on the Bank of India site, but couldn't find Aitken name there anywhere.
Am about to email XXX in St Helena, (*) whom I found on the newly advertised ancestory site for South Africa, as she's coincidentally seeking descendants of family from St Helena, who went to South Africa!
Last night also emailed family in SA to see if they can assist with when Rev Tom Aitken and his wife, Edith Mary Short, married, and where, and when they arrived to take up his prison chaplain posting on St Helena.  Don't expect them to reply in a hurry!
Harping back, wonder where in India, Robert & family were, I've no idea?

Thanks again, Joe
Cheers

Danchaslyn

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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Re: AITKEN family, West Linton, Peeblesshire
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 17:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi JOEKAR

Also meant to say, that during other reading this morning, I discovered that Baptists are known, or, were known as 'non-conformists', and baptism, christening etc records, might be kept separately?
Rev Thomas Aitken most certainly was a Baptist, don't know if his siblings, or parents were?
Could this possibly be a reason why its difficult to trace his marriage to Edith Mary Short of King's Lynn, Norfolk?

Cheers

Danchaslyn
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Re: AITKEN family, West Linton, Peeblesshire
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 18:01 UTC (UK) »

hi pal,

1891 census- 53 caledonian road, cambusnethan, wishaw

home of janet steele

boarder...thomas aitken...age 20...joiner



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Re: AITKEN family, West Linton, Peeblesshire
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 24 March 09 18:55 UTC (UK) »


Hi JOEKAR

Thanks again, and suppose not so strange, that Thomas started off as a Joiner, when his Dad was a sawyer etc, but how interesting!  Would 20 be quite a young age for someone to leave home then?
Wonder how long he practised his joinery for, before he became a Baptist Minister?
Maybe Wishaw is where he met his future wife, Edith Mary Short?
I've emailed Merle Martin in St Helena and wait with baited breath for her response........during the 1980's  (I need to look out my late mother's diary), my mother b. Edith Constance Aitken, Kingswilliamtown, South Africa, and her elder sister, Dorothy Aitken, and their cousin, Winifred Bateman of the USA, went on a splendid trip to the Island of St Helena and were treated most well, even dining with the Governor.  The three ladies said the small museum featured their Dad.
I wonder whose child Winifred Bateman is?  She may have been a second cousin, not a first cousin.
Thanks again Joe

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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Re: AITKEN family, West Linton, Peeblesshire
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 25 March 09 14:01 UTC (UK) »


Hi JOEKAR

Kris of Krisejoint was able to tell me this morning that John Ellis Aitken and wife Norah and daughter, Elizabeth as you so kindly told me, arrived 1936 in Liverpool and were bound for St Ives.
In my ignorance, I thought this was in Cornwall, but it runs out it was St Ives, Doushire, Huntingdonshire  (thanks to Kris).

I's searching now for any info on this family since their arrival and also who Norah was and any details on her. 

I've also had a look (thanks to Barbara) on the Families in British India site, but can find no refs there to either Robert Aitken, nor John Elis Aitken and fam.

Many thanks
Danchaslyn      Roll Eyes
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Re: AITKEN family, West Linton, Peeblesshire
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 25 March 09 22:02 UTC (UK) »

Welcome to rootschat.You've certainly got off to  good start!
You asked about the location of Kirkurd. I stay about a mile from there and about 5 miles from West Linton
Kirkurd is just a wee group of houses which, until about 1985ish had it's own school and church. The school is now a house and the church is used as a store but it's graveyard is still in use..... It's just off the A701 south of Blyth Bridge and about 10 miles west of Peebles.It remains a Parish in Peeblesshire although the school joined up with Newlands school in the early 80's and the the Church with Newlands Parish Church at Romanno Bridge.
I saw an entry in one of your replies referring to John - lodger- aged 26 Gartyhead, Scotson. I think Gartyhead has been misread and should read 'Entryhead' which is the existing lodge cottage to Scotstoun House, Blyth Bridge.
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Re: AITKEN family, West Linton, Peeblesshire
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 26 March 09 08:57 UTC (UK) »



MRS A

Cheesy Hi Avril

How heartwarming to hear from someone living so close to the old origins........as you say, what a wonderful start, thanks to the lovely folk of RootsChat.Com.  As I'm a Beginner, not sure how to link chats in other sections, so forgive me if I'm telling you something you know, but there is more infor re this family in the Beginners' Section and also, my mistake, in the Cornwall Section  (the appropirate St Ives is in Huntingdon, not Cornwall!).

Anyway, lovey to hear a bit about Kirkurd, will have to visit the graveyard etc there sometime in the future.    Cool

Also, William Aitken (no date of birth?) married Jane Veitch (no DOB?) at Canongate, Edinburgh, 1816.  They lived at Tofts, Kirkurd, would you know this place?
Their daughter Elizabeth was born 1818, would like the rest of her birthday if poss?

Thank you for 'Entryhead', think you must be right, would love to see this gatelodge also.

Jane Aitken, mother of William (Carpenter) was born 1791, Tofts, Kirkurd.  Would love her date of birth and maiden name?  And, if poss, her parents?   Huh

Thanks again
Grin

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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Re: AITKEN family, West Linton, Peeblesshire
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 26 March 09 13:33 UTC (UK) »

hi pal,

still searching.....


1851 census- number 3, tofts, kirkurd

william...age 56...joiner
jane..age 59
elizabeth...age 33
marion...age 26
jane henderson...grand-daughter...age 9
william grosart...grandson...age 2 months


so with this info i found that ann aitken had married peter henderson

henderson family census

1861 census- upper liberton- liberton

peter...age 42...ploughman
ann...age 38
jane...age 19...domestic servant
harriet...age 17
elizabeth...age 14
peter...age 11
william...age 9 (christened 6/6/1852 penicuik)
ann...age 5 (born 8/7/1856 penicuik)

1871 census- campend cottages- newton

peter...age 52...ploughman
ann...age 51
peter...age 21...ploughman
william...age 19...ploughman
ann...age 15...farm hand
john...age 9 (born 2/7/1861 liberton)
mary...grand-daughter...age 3
william...grandson...age 3

1881 census- newton

ann...age 59
jane...age 39...farm hand
peter...age 30...gardener
ann...age 24
john...age 19...pit labourer
mary...grand-daughter..age 13
william...grandson...age 13
harriet...age 9...grand-daughter


1891 census- craigmiller cottages- liberton

ann..age 70
elizabeth..age 43...domestic servant
peter..age 40...gardener
ann...age 36
john...age 29...brewer's labourer


1901 cenus- moredun house- liberton

peter...age 56...gardener
elizabeth...age 54
mary...age 38
sarah...age 4...niece..potobello c1897


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Re: AITKEN family, West Linton, Peeblesshire
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 26 March 09 14:36 UTC (UK) »


Smiley

JOEKAR

Hi Joe   Smiley

Definitely think that finding out about one's family is one of the most exciting things to do, and all due thanks to folk such as yourself, who so kindly give of their time and knowledge.   Roll Eyes
I am astounded at everything you have found out and so grateful.  At this stage I need to buy a very, very large sheet of paper on which to transcribe all these family branches!

And now into a new family as well.........Hendersons, and a newish district.

Thank you very very much indeed     Grin
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Re: AITKEN family, West Linton, Peeblesshire
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 26 March 09 14:42 UTC (UK) »

following up on oor william ramsay,

i see that he was with his mum on the 1871 census and by 1881 has got married to isabella.

1871 census- rosehall, dalkeith road, newington

james geddes...age 45...servant
elizabeth geddes..age 53...housekeeper
william ramsay...age 16


1881 census- back o' mill, lands street, penicuik

william...age 35...joiner
isabella...age 32
isabella...age 6
john...age 5
william...age 3
margaret...age 1

1891 census- bridgehouse terrace, peebles

william...age 45..joiner
isabella...age 42
isabella...age 16
john..age 15..joiner
william...age 13
margaret...age 11
alexander...age 8

1901 census- 80 montelier park, newtington

william...age 56...builder
isabella...age 53
isabella...age 26
margaret..milliner



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Re: AITKEN family, West Linton, Peeblesshire
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 26 March 09 14:49 UTC (UK) »

hi pal,

forgot to give you the 1851 census for the henderson's


1851 census- eight mile burn, penicuik

peter...age 30...ploughman
ann...age 22
harriet...age 7
elizabeth...age 4
peter...age 1



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Re: AITKEN family, West Linton, Peeblesshire
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 26 March 09 21:10 UTC (UK) »

hi pal,

unfortunately i did not have enough credits left for s/p website to confirm details about your Aiken family, but what i can say is...

grace Aiken(ms Tennant) died on the 16th October 1910, aged 80

(gro- 685/06 0753)

i believe that this may be your john..

john Aiken died 1913 newington...gro 685/05 0168


the website i used was

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk


sorry that i can be of no more help


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Re: AITKEN family, West Linton, Peeblesshire
« Reply #28 on: Friday 27 March 09 09:59 UTC (UK) »

   Smiley

Hello Joekar  Joe    Cheesy

From the bottom of my heart, thank you so much for all your kindness and wonderful help.

Thanks to you, what an amazing pic I can build of this side of the family!

As I said before,  you are a Start.

Cheers
Danchaslyn

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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Re: AITKEN family, West Linton, Peeblesshire
« Reply #29 on: Friday 27 March 09 10:00 UTC (UK) »


JOEKAR  Joe


Sorry,    STAR    !

Cheers

Danchaslyn

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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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