july
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I have just read an interesting book about the lanes of carlisle, but there was no mention of the lanes where my ancesters were living.
The lanes i am looking for are, Blackwell lane, St nicholas st, Water lane English st, does this mean water lane off english st as this is how it is written on the birth certificate, on another certificate i have Water lane st cuthbert, english st a bit confusing.
Would these lanes have been in a better area of Carlisle for people who had a profession my ancesters were working on the railways
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july
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Thank you for your replies i will write to the newspaper to see if they can shed some light on this
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emmsthheight
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Hi July, Bob, Goeff
Yes, I was looking at those two lanes a few days ago and I thought if I got my old map sheets out, I'd be able to name them, but sure enough, no name on the map either.
Even so, for Water Lane, would it be too far away to be in the old houses that have gone, down by the river? Was it Engliush Street itself or just that area I wonder? I wonder if it's on a census?
I'll try looking"!
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emmsthheight
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A few here - Steve Bulman's site, 1811 Principle Inhabitants of Carlisle.
I haven't seen this bit before. It's great.
A coup[e say "Water Lane, Botchergate and English St" though, so is it at the top p of Botchergate or behind the station - or under it? The street my ggg grandmother died in is under a platform at Euston Station!
Emms
http://www.stevebulman.f9.co.uk/cumbria/jollie_carlisle_f.html
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emmsthheight
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Hi
Also on Carlisle History, page linked below: Mentions an explosion of the Gasometer on Water Lane. Same area as used recently for gas? Same Water Lane? 1826!
http://www.carlislehistory.co.uk/carlislehistoryg.html
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emmsthheight
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Hi There's a brewery on one of those pages too, which I would have thought would have used water.
I'm not sure here. There's St Cuthbert's Parish and that went on for miles, depending on the date. More research required!
I'll see what else I've got.
I also looked for Blackwell Lane, and I can't see one on St Nicholas. There's not much called Blackwell Rd though. Could that have started life as Blackwell Lane?
Best wishes
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emmsthheight
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Hi
No Water Lane yet, but I've found John Wood's 1821 Map - before the railway - or a piece of it anyway.
He has Water Street and Water Gate Lane. How to explain? It all looked different!
If you think English SDtreet carried on to the top of Botchergate, before the cutting was made to go over the railway, when you get infront of where the station os now, The Crescent was then Court Crescent, and that had almost another half circle facing it where the station forecourt is now.
on the left, Collier's Lane still cuts through the hotel, parapllel to Botchergate. Where that opens onto Court Square, a street, Water Street, carries on straight through the Station. In fact I wonder if the first few yards are what goes acriss the lights from the Crescent to the station now.
It goes straight through and comes onto Water Gate Lane which looks as if it runs in front of the modern Matalan etc and Brown's Row - Old Cottages still standing? - and sout out of town. It starts at Caldew Brow.
You could also contintue from the end of the named Water Street across Water Gate Lane and over the river thento the left along the river to Long Island Cotton Factory. This unnamed bit just dotted. Wayer Lane?
Could Water Street have been along the exit of Matalan and over into Boustead's? There's a Bridge there. Too far down?
As for Water Lane, is this a red herring, or getting warmer?!?
Good Luck!
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