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Colin Y
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Uncle Fred - England XI 1908 - POW Berlin 1914-19
Re: Sawley with Wilsthorpe C41,51,61 Saxton family
« Reply #45 on: Saturday 28 March 09 15:36 UTC (UK) »
Scrimnet...

'WW1 - miltary & medical....' you mentioned?

What do you know about VADs, dare I ask? Any idea where I could find a list of VAD Hospitals or where a particular repatriated POW on return from 5 years in Berlin was sent to recover in 1919?

... and theres more... I have a photo of a nissen hut Christmas party 1918 at the School of Bomb Dropping and Aiming at RAF Whatton (?) where my Grandpa was a carpenter - making propellers in the RFC.

Any thoughts?

Colin
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« Reply #46 on: Saturday 28 March 09 15:43 UTC (UK) »
Paulene...

Its just another sign of a misspent youth!

Some schools play Eton Fives - a stone and cement walled court, open at the back with a step halfway in and a decidedly church style buttress about 5 ft high on the left at the side.

Otehers schools play fives on a court which has no buttress and I think..... but stand willing to be corrected... wiithout a step.

The game is played with a hard little ball wrapped in a meagre layer of oxode plaster tape and you hit it with a padded gloved hand.

KES was famous as being one of the top schools at Eton Fives. Stowe played but never at the same level :-( and it hurt!

... is that right Scrimnet?

Would I know your in laws? The 'H mafia' were very much around the HGC!

Colin
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Re: Sawley with Wilsthorpe C41,51,61 Saxton family
« Reply #47 on: Saturday 28 March 09 15:45 UTC (UK) »
Ah, I see! I bet it hurt, too!
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Re: Sawley with Wilsthorpe C41,51,61 Saxton family
« Reply #48 on: Saturday 28 March 09 15:51 UTC (UK) »
Scrimnet...

You said
"His mother and grandmother went to KEHS / Camp Hill Girls as well..."

Are you referring to the Colonel?

How do you now that? I dont know that!

Thats why I asked if you were a 'medium' with powers of super perception... it is possile because Emily Louise lived in the right area to walk there... I dont know who his mother was or his grandmother!

Just a bit stunned...

Colin
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Re: Sawley with Wilsthorpe C41,51,61 Saxton family
« Reply #49 on: Saturday 28 March 09 15:54 UTC (UK) »
Colin,
I need to just go back and check this, but I think William Henry's father was also called William Henry Brookes, and his mother was Elizabdeth Louise (nee Hale).
I'll just check, and be back.
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Re: Sawley with Wilsthorpe C41,51,61 Saxton family
« Reply #50 on: Saturday 28 March 09 15:59 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Colin Y on Saturday 28 March 09 15:51 UTC (UK)
Scrimnet...

You said
"His mother and grandmother went to KEHS / Camp Hill Girls as well..."

Are you referring to the Colonel?

How do you now that? I dont know that!

Thats why I asked if you were a 'medium' with powers of super perception... it is possile because Emily Louise lived in the right area to walk there... I dont know who his mother was or his grandmother!

Just a bit stunned...

Colin


Sorry mate...

Was referring to the young Padawan, my son.... Embarrassed

There are some lists of various VAD and Red Cross hospitals...but beware...I counted around 30+ in and around Northampton alone....

I have a great interest in the subjects mentioned.... Wink

I'll explain in a PM...
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Re: Sawley with Wilsthorpe C41,51,61 Saxton family
« Reply #51 on: Saturday 28 March 09 16:08 UTC (UK) »
Paulene

You are right as to the forenames but Hale is new! Any idea where they were from?

Colin
PS Did you see, Scrimnet is a colloquial French speaker too! ;-)
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Uncle Fred - England XI 1908 - POW Berlin 1914-19
Re: Sawley with Wilsthorpe C41,51,61 Saxton family
« Reply #52 on: Saturday 28 March 09 16:19 UTC (UK) »
Nope.... my mistake, I had a possible as 'Hales' - do you have it from other than me of FreebMD?

Colin
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Re: Sawley with Wilsthorpe C41,51,61 Saxton family
« Reply #53 on: Saturday 28 March 09 16:23 UTC (UK) »
Scrimnet,

Brill'

The VAD Hospital I was looking for should have been at Drago House, Washford, Somerset.

The VAD would have been a Mrs Hayes widow of Capt Claud Hayes.

The Patient was my great Uncle (seen on the left!) he has his own Wikipedia page - try Fred Pentland!

Colin
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Re: Sawley with Wilsthorpe C41,51,61 Saxton family
« Reply #54 on: Saturday 28 March 09 16:25 UTC (UK) »
.... sorry Scrimnet,

that should be Dragon House, Washford - the connection is that Fred and the Colonel's lady were brother and sister!

Colin
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Re: Sawley with Wilsthorpe C41,51,61 Saxton family
« Reply #55 on: Saturday 28 March 09 16:36 UTC (UK) »
Hi Colin,
I know I had a lot of difficulty following the family's movements - on one census in particular.
I found a marriage, which I presume is the right one:
Marriages mar 1876
Brookes William Henry
Hale Elizabeth Louisa
Stourbridge   6c    200

Then, with information from the census, regarding her place of birth (Middlesex), I found the following birth registration in 1867:
Births Sep 1867
HALE Elizabeth Louisa   Bethnal Green    1c    310
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Re: Sawley with Wilsthorpe C41,51,61 Saxton family
« Reply #56 on: Saturday 28 March 09 17:00 UTC (UK) »
Paulene...erm...

  1876 marriage
- 1867 birth
  ____
      9 years old at wedding?

I don't think its possible, Paulene?

Sorreee! ;-)
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Re: Sawley with Wilsthorpe C41,51,61 Saxton family
« Reply #57 on: Saturday 28 March 09 17:05 UTC (UK) »
Whoops!
You're quite right - obviously jotted down a few things and not concetrating. Too many pots cooking and bit sof paper from differnt posts Embarrassed
I need to find them again on ancestry - give me a mo and I will come back to you - promise!
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Re: Sawley with Wilsthorpe C41,51,61 Saxton family
« Reply #58 on: Saturday 28 March 09 21:22 UTC (UK) »
Sorry, bit longer than a mo.
Well, I was working on my friends family tree, and had middlesex on the brain (where her family originated), so I copied the wrong one down Embarrassed
This is the right birth:
Births Mar 1858
Hale Elizabeth Louisa
Stourbridge   6c   240.
Which would have made her eighteen years of age at the time of her marriage. (That's a bit better Wink)
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Re: Sawley with Wilsthorpe C41,51,61 Saxton family
« Reply #59 on: Saturday 28 March 09 21:36 UTC (UK) »
Thanks a bundle Paulene, that takes us another step forward.

That fits very nicely! Stourbridge includes Quinton which adjoins Harborne, where Lt Col. W H Brookes is buried!

So do you think W H Brookes senior, who she married in 1876 in Stourbridge / Quinton, was from Kings Norton? Its next door too!

The photo of the Colonels grave will probably tell us more and I sort of expect to fin his son mentioned on it! He would be 100 this year and I cant be that lucky... or can I!

Again thanks

Colin
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