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Station Master in Brede
« on: Wednesday 25 March 09 17:32 GMT (UK) »

Hi, Smiley My Great Great Grandfather, Malcolm John McGregor is described as Station Master on his daughters marriage certificate in 1866. His residence in 1851, on the census is Station House, Brede, Kent.

Can you throw any light on this, I cant find any info on the station or the line. Huh

I emailed the National Railway Museum and this is their reply:

"Thank you for your enquiry. There does not appear to have been bene a station actually called Brede. The ex South Eastern Railway line between Hastings and Ashford runs close to the village of Brede, and there is a station called Doleham Halt which is about 1.5 miles from the village. I cannot be sure if the station house that you describe would be associated with that station, however as that line only opened in 1907 it is extremely doubtful that that the address you have provided is associated with that station. It seems to be a mystery as there were no railways very close to Brede at all in the 1850’s. I am sorry I cannot provide you with any help, but if you have any further enquiries, please do not hesitate to contact us."

I was wondering if anyone could help, I did find a water pumping station in the area, would he have been called a Station Master if he worked there??? Tongue
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Re: Station Master in Brede
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 25 March 09 18:21 GMT (UK) »

intriguing !  the 1851 address certainly says 'Station' - and his occupation is 'Station Master' - altho complemented by Pensioner Chelsea - Royal Artillery .....


wish I could read the Enumerators comment at the foot of the page ...

'End of detached part of Brede lying in ~~~~~ called Coch?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – Carlisle
KEW - Carlisle
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Re: Station Master in Brede
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 25 March 09 18:31 GMT (UK) »

 ............ lying in Udimore called Cock Marling see http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/SSX/Udimore/ParishMap.php

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Re: Station Master in Brede
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 25 March 09 18:42 GMT (UK) »

just deciphered it too !

another piece of info:-


http://www.eastsussex.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/A223137F-0FEA-4189-8E3E-2730EDF17290/0/CockMarlingWalkwebversion.pdf
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – Carlisle
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Re: Station Master in Brede
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 25 March 09 18:50 GMT (UK) »

more and more curious - he was a Station Master in Leigh, near Reigate in 1861 ....

1861 -  RG9/444; Folio: 152; Page: 10 - Leigh Parish, Village of Mentham ?
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – Carlisle
KEW - Carlisle
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Re: Station Master in Brede
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 25 March 09 19:10 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for that,  Smiley I hadn't found the 1861 census. Cheesy in 1871 he is retired in Caterham, Surrey. I wonder if there is a railway station in Leigh Paris, village of Mentham or if the pumping station theory holds up. I read the cock marling walk leaflet that you sent and it does mention a water pumping station so it looks likely, i wonder if anyone who knows about names of occupations would know if a station master could be attributed to that. Roll Eyes
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Re: Station Master in Brede
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 25 March 09 23:59 GMT (UK) »

worth asking the question in a new thread on the Occupations Board I'd think - google doesnt help !
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – Carlisle
KEW - Carlisle
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Re: Station Master in Brede
« Reply #7 on: Friday 27 March 09 21:30 GMT (UK) »

The 1861 census of Udimore includes the detatched part of Brede called Cock Marling AND the house at Winchelsea Railway Station!  In 1861 the "Railway Station"" SER is occupied by the Railway Station Master and his family. It would actually be Winchelsea Railway Station then!

Here's a picture although it may be a later building than when your ancestors were there http://www.primelocation.com/uk-property-for-sale/details/id/RYEAE32745/ Undecided

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Re: Station Master in Brede
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 March 09 08:38 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Casalguidi,

i think that wraps it up.

You are all amazing

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: Station Master in Brede
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 28 March 09 09:25 GMT (UK) »

Brilliant CasalG !

Enumerators Page exactly describes it !

http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=8767&iid=SSXRG9_558_561-0130

Wonder why the Railway Museum didnt make the link ?

Just how detached is this part of Brede ?
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – Carlisle
KEW - Carlisle
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