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Topic: Hawick -Richardson/Waldie -Cert.Question (Read 710 times)
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ajjbc
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While attempting to work on one more family line...
JAMES RICHARDSON (born Aug 1851)-son of Mary Murray & Walter Richardson and his wife MARGARET "Maggie" WADIE (born c1852)dau of Elizabeth Kersel and Robert Waldie.
MARGARET"Maggie" and JAMES had 7 known children.
Elizabeth Kersel.Mary Murray,Margaret Waldie,Walter,Robert,Charlotte and John.
By a fluke I found the marriage for the 1st child,Elizabeth Kersel Richardson and she married an Alexander LITTLE (Son of Margaret Johnstone and William Little)
So I though I would pay the piper at SP and enter the next child's name and see who she married. It seems that you have to enter BOTH of the couples names.
QUESTION  ...Is this really so?..... and Is there a way around this situation.
Thanks for reading and for any further ideas.
PS..I have this family documented on census 1861 to 1901.
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IRELAND: Algeo,Armstrong,Brick, ,Hendren/Hendron,
Hopkins,Ramage, Weatherup.
SCOTLAND: Armstrong,Blair,Bruce,Brunton,Clarke/Clerk,
Dickson,Dobson,Dryden,Eaton,Gillie/Gillies Haliburton, Hogg,Huggan,Kersel,Miller,Notman,
Peacock, Prentice,Redpath,Richardson, Scobbie, Spiers/Speirs,Spottiswood,Tinline, Turnbull,Waddel, Waldie ,Waugh.
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MonicaLesl
RootsChat Marquessate
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Not sure what is going on with your searches on SP unfortunately. You are able to search marriages with just one partner's name (including the use of wildcards on the search).
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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ajjbc
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I have a dumb question..what do I put in as the wild card?say in the males name....thanks monica
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IRELAND: Algeo,Armstrong,Brick, ,Hendren/Hendron,
Hopkins,Ramage, Weatherup.
SCOTLAND: Armstrong,Blair,Bruce,Brunton,Clarke/Clerk,
Dickson,Dobson,Dryden,Eaton,Gillie/Gillies Haliburton, Hogg,Huggan,Kersel,Miller,Notman,
Peacock, Prentice,Redpath,Richardson, Scobbie, Spiers/Speirs,Spottiswood,Tinline, Turnbull,Waddel, Waldie ,Waugh.
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MonicaLesl
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It was just a side comment  You can include wildcards if you want to pick up on spelling variants on SP which is quite strict and rigid on how names are indexed for searches. '*' replaces any number of letters and '?' replaces just one.
You can search by either the male name or female name only.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Piglet01
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Captain Bob as a boy
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Hello
I sometimes find it easier to search for deaths - especially if they have a middle name.
1 1883 RICHARDSON MARY MURRAY F 2 WILTON /ROXBURGH 810/00 0104
2 1931 RICHARDSON MARY MURRAY BROWN F 48 DRYFESDALE /DUMFRIES 820/00 0026
The first, ? possibly yours. Regards, Steve .....
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McDonald originating in Aberlour. Smith (Aberdeenshire/Aberdeen), Esslemont, Christie, Robbie; Scott (in Aberdour). Crosbie and Willison. Borders: Lawrie, Thomson, Paxton, Peacock, Amos, Robson, Turner, Bertram, Watson
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ajjbc
RootsChat Senior
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Thanks Monica & Piglet...back to the drawing board.
I did go to SP and check out that 1931 death of Mary Murray Richardson -Brown..nope,not mine....but will file her..... as my Mary Murray Richardson had a younger brother Robert (born c 1887)...one never knows.
The other Mary Murray Richardson age 2 who died in Hawick is interesting. Mine was born 1879 and shows on census 1881 age 1,and 1891 age 11 .
So I will keep plugging away..that is after I feed SP my plastic again..he he
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IRELAND: Algeo,Armstrong,Brick, ,Hendren/Hendron,
Hopkins,Ramage, Weatherup.
SCOTLAND: Armstrong,Blair,Bruce,Brunton,Clarke/Clerk,
Dickson,Dobson,Dryden,Eaton,Gillie/Gillies Haliburton, Hogg,Huggan,Kersel,Miller,Notman,
Peacock, Prentice,Redpath,Richardson, Scobbie, Spiers/Speirs,Spottiswood,Tinline, Turnbull,Waddel, Waldie ,Waugh.
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ajjbc
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OK...I went and chased WALTER RICHARDSON's death and found it and it shows he was married to an ELIZABETH WATSON and they lived at 5 Wellington Street and the son James W Richardson signed the death info...so I am slowly getting there.
It appears that James W Richardson (the son) lived at 24 Wellogate in Hawick.
So I might as well pay the piper for the marriage...he he .
The things we do for the love of family research.!....We pull out the plastic.!!
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IRELAND: Algeo,Armstrong,Brick, ,Hendren/Hendron,
Hopkins,Ramage, Weatherup.
SCOTLAND: Armstrong,Blair,Bruce,Brunton,Clarke/Clerk,
Dickson,Dobson,Dryden,Eaton,Gillie/Gillies Haliburton, Hogg,Huggan,Kersel,Miller,Notman,
Peacock, Prentice,Redpath,Richardson, Scobbie, Spiers/Speirs,Spottiswood,Tinline, Turnbull,Waddel, Waldie ,Waugh.
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mumof1
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This is off the topic of this thread, but I am descended from James RICHARDSON of Hawick m around 1790 to Isabel or Jean or Jane SCOTT. There are Walter's and James RICHARDSON's all through my tree. I was wondering if there is a connection?
Alison
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBAKER, TILLETT, SMITH, THEOBALD, ANDREWS, NAUNTON, UNDERWOOD - Suffolk LISH, HARMAN, HARLAND, LELLIOTT, WOOLGAR, WOOLVEN, FAIRS - Sussex McGEE/MAGEE, LISH, WITHERS, PITMAN - London WITHERS - London, Gloucestershire PITMAN - London, Kent ATTRILL, BOURNE - Isle of Wight CADWALLADER - Wales KNIGHT - Northamptonshire O'LEARY - Ireland BEGGS, BANDEAN, BROWN, SCOTT, DEWAR, RICHARDSON, RAMSAY - Scotland |
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ajjbc
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Looks like a yes....I have James Richardson,farmer born c 1765 and married Isabel/Isabella Scott Nov 22 1787 in Hawick.
Their son Andrew Richardson born c 1791 in Rox.Scot and died Feb 22 1869 in Hawick,married Margaret Pollock June 24 1814.
Margaret Pollock and Andrew Richardson had 9 known children...James,Andrew,JOHN (my direct line) David,Alexander,Isabella,Margaret and George 1,and then George 2....
How does that fit with what you might have?
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IRELAND: Algeo,Armstrong,Brick, ,Hendren/Hendron,
Hopkins,Ramage, Weatherup.
SCOTLAND: Armstrong,Blair,Bruce,Brunton,Clarke/Clerk,
Dickson,Dobson,Dryden,Eaton,Gillie/Gillies Haliburton, Hogg,Huggan,Kersel,Miller,Notman,
Peacock, Prentice,Redpath,Richardson, Scobbie, Spiers/Speirs,Spottiswood,Tinline, Turnbull,Waddel, Waldie ,Waugh.
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mumof1
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My 3 x Gt Grandfather was Henry Richardson born 1801 in Hawick. Parents are James Richardson and Jane Scott. Henry's siblings are: William (c1791), Walter (c1792), Betty (c1794), James (1796), Thomas (1806) and James (c1808). This info is from the IGI (extracted records) and the mother's name is recorded on some records as Jean Scott on others as Jane Scott. I have looked on Scotlands People and I cannot find a marriage of a James Richardson to a Jean or Jane Scott. There IS however the marriage to Isabel Scott. Scotlands people have a death for Isabel Richardson. 23/8/1818. Hawick. Other names recorded on death record are Jas Richardson and Scott. Looks likely to be the Isabel who married James Richardson in 1787. Nothing returned for a Jean Richardson between 1807 and 1854. There is a Jane Richardson in 1810 but the other names recorded on record are Rutherford and Ritchie. No mention of a Richardson.
I have 3 Isabella's and 3 Jane's scattered around my Richardson tree but no Jean's. On the IGI there is a James Richardson born c1767 to John Richardson and Isabel Scott. I was wondering if it were possible that if the son of John and Isabel married another Isabel Scott it may have been confusing so the younger Isabel became known as Jean or Jane. Just a thought.
Alison
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBAKER, TILLETT, SMITH, THEOBALD, ANDREWS, NAUNTON, UNDERWOOD - Suffolk LISH, HARMAN, HARLAND, LELLIOTT, WOOLGAR, WOOLVEN, FAIRS - Sussex McGEE/MAGEE, LISH, WITHERS, PITMAN - London WITHERS - London, Gloucestershire PITMAN - London, Kent ATTRILL, BOURNE - Isle of Wight CADWALLADER - Wales KNIGHT - Northamptonshire O'LEARY - Ireland BEGGS, BANDEAN, BROWN, SCOTT, DEWAR, RICHARDSON, RAMSAY - Scotland |
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elle1973
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Hi,
i think i may have a lot of information you are looking for!!
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elle1973
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I am going to ask my Dad tomorrow but i do think i may be able to help.
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