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jlmack1
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Perhaps someone can put me on the right track.
I have Susanna COPP 1860 - 1944 married in Camelford Cornwall c1880 to Thomas Henry Rescorl.
Susanna's parents are (I think) Robert Copp and Maria Miller. Can anyone confirm this?
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Pels.
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Hi jlmack1,
On the 1861 census there is a Susanna Copp, age 1 living with her parents John and Fanny in Bideford. Have you already seen this and if not would you like the details ?
Kind regards,
Pels.
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jlmack1
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Certainly would - yes please
but - on her marriage certificate is says Fathers Name = "Robert Copp (Deceased) Labourer."
Your details may be someone else.
Lee
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Pels.
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This looks more promising now I read the return, it looks like Susanna was actually the daughter of Maria who is a widow. Providing the enumerator has her name correct, because he has dittoed the surname from the head of the house down.
1861 census:
RG9/1502, Folio 173, Page 32
Devon, Bideford
Meddon St
John Copp, h, mar, 29, Ag Lab, b. Devon, Wear Gifford
Fanny, wife mar, 25, b. Devon, Westleigh
Robert, son 5, Scholar, b. Cornwall. St Asaph
William, son, 3, b. Devon, Bideford
Thomas, son, 1, b. Bideford
Maria, boarder, widow, 30, French Gloveress ?, b. Devon, Plymouth
Mary, dau, 3, b. Devon, Northam,
Susanna, dau, 1, b. Devon, Northam
Pels.
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Pels.
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Hi Tati, 
This looks like Roberts death ..
Death, Dec qtr 1860
Robert Copp
Bideford, Vol 5b, page 336
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Tati
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Shame, he won't be on 1861 to confirm then 
The best match I see in 1871 is this girl with mum Maria nee Miller
RG10/2221 52 28
St Teath, Cornwall
Higher Medrose
Mary Miller, head, wid, 69, b. Devon Dodgewell?
James, son, unm, 22, Slate Quarrier, b. Cornwall St Teath
Maria Copps, dau, wid, 40, b. Devon Eckb* Clancy?
Susanna Copps, gdau, 11, scholar, b. Devon Northam
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"My dear, I think the English pronounce it 'appiness" Desire and hunger is the fire I breathe Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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tazzie
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How about .....
Robert Copp
Maria Miller same page Camelford 5c 35 March qt 1854
Tazzie
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jlmack1
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Great work ladies!
I now make it 1861 Census 1871 Census
Mary Miller Grandma 69
Maria 30 dtr Maria Dtr 40
her children Mary 3 her children missing Mary
Susanna 1 Susanna 11
(James is son of Grandma
= sister of Maria)
Perhaps Mary died between 1861 and 1871.
Robert Copp (Maria's husband who died 1860) was the brother of John (where they were staying in the 1861 Census)
OK I cn look from there. Thank you.
Lee
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Tati
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This looks like the Millers in 1861
RG9/1516 144 28
St Teath, Cornwall
Higher Medrose
George Miller, head, 58, Slate Quarrier Local Preacher Bible Christians, b. Cornwall St Endellion
Mary, wife, 59, b. Devon Leag***ell
George, son, 17, Slate Quarrier, b. Cornwall St Teath
James, son, 15, Slate Quarrier, b. do.
and 1851:
HO107/1898 276 10
St Teath, Cornwall
Medrose Lane
George Miller, head, 47, Quarry Man, b. Cornwall St Endellion
Mary, wife, 46, b. Devon Ladgewell
Maria, dau, unm, 23, Quarry Girl, b. Devon Eggbeckland?
Mary A, dau, 15, Quarry Girl, b. Cornwall St Teath
Susana, dau, 8, scholar, b. do.
George, son, 7, scholar, b. do.
Janes, dau, 5, scholar, b. do. (should be son James I suppose!)
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"My dear, I think the English pronounce it 'appiness" Desire and hunger is the fire I breathe Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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jlmack1
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Sure does, thank you for your information.
From the 1861 Census I feel John Copp was born Devon Wear Gifford c1832???
Was there a Robert Copp born around that time? ?
Perhaps their births say parents names.
Lee
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Tiffaney
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I have Copps but mine were in Tiverton Devon...are Bideford & Tiverton close to one another.
Just in case this is of any use to you.
Nicholas COPP b: 1727 Tiverton Devon d: 1768 Tiverton m: 22 Oct 1752 Tiverton a Mary Bowden b: 1730 Tiverton..
Children all born Tiverton:
Henry Copp
Grace Copp
Nicholas Copp 1754 - 1755
John Copp b:1759 d: 1809 Sidbury Devon/
John Copp b: 1759 Tiverton m: Jane b: 1760
Their children all born Tiverton
Elizabeth Copp b: 17 Dec 1781
Elkana Copp b: 12 March 1784
Mary Copp b: 17 Apr 1788 d: 1847
Thomas Copp b: 2 Oct 1791
Henry Copp b: 20 Apr 1794 d: 1800
Ann Copp b: 12 Nov 1799 d: 1799
Henry Copp b: 1800 d: bef 1804
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jlmack1
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Thank you Tiffaney, Will look into this information and check.
Lee
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